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- 19 Jul 2017 06:46
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: A couple questions on rarity of features (stress and cases)
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Re: A couple questions on rarity of features (stress and cas
Thanks! That is interesting to poke through. The vocabulary is a bit challenging at times but very educational. :)
- 16 Jul 2017 05:44
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: A couple questions on rarity of features (stress and cases)
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Re: A couple questions on rarity of features (stress and cas
I am pretty sure there are languages that keep the stress pattern from the source language (or just adjust them minimally). IIRC a lot of languages do this with loan words from French, which are stressed on the last syllable. Ah! *notes this down* I will probably do that, then, because I do intend ...
- 15 Jul 2017 17:26
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: A couple questions on rarity of features (stress and cases)
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Re: A couple questions on rarity of features (stress and cas
Both are definitely attested. In describing your language, you could say that the first syllable of a word is stressed (if it is E.ce.sar.len.cri) or that the first syllable of the root is stressed (if it is e.ce.SAR.len.cri). None of them are rare in natlangs. In some languages even only some pre-...
- 15 Jul 2017 09:58
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: A couple questions on rarity of features (stress and cases)
- Replies: 9
- Views: 3885
A couple questions on rarity of features (stress and cases)
I posted a few times last year, struggling to grasp some basics, and then real life sort of took over and I didn't have a chance to work on my conlang (named Cerstan) properly for a long while. I've been pulling it out and working on it recently - spent one evening going through the dictionary and m...
- 20 Jul 2016 18:14
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Questions on grammatical number & agreement
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3574
Re: Questions on grammatical number & agreement
Hmm... when there are numerals that makes it pretty easy to tell that it's plural, even if the noun itself doesn't have it marked. What about when there's no numeral to tell? Such as "Alice picked up the pencil" vs. "Alice picked up the pencils". Or "Alice picked up a penci...
- 20 Jul 2016 08:09
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Questions on grammatical number & agreement
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3574
Re: Questions on grammatical number & agreement
You could try tacking the article on the noun in some way. Definite articles in Swedish are suffixes, if I remember correctly; would something similar work with your language? Hmm, an idea--though I've got case endings as suffixes too, so would end up with two suffixes. Not a problem really, just s...
- 20 Jul 2016 06:43
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
- Replies: 26
- Views: 6700
Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
Ooh, I like this. No new morphemes, but adds new levels of meaning possibilities. To give you a glimpse of the future: one common progression you see as conlangers gain more experience is that they start with a very heavy focus on morphology (ways to change the forms of words) and only later begin ...
- 20 Jul 2016 02:31
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
- Replies: 26
- Views: 6700
Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
Marking direction/location on a verb might mean either morphemes added to a verb that show a location or direction of motion, or completely stems for different kinds of motion. The former might look something like the following: bob-SUB hill-OBJ go-ABOVE Bob goes up the hill. Marking telicity (whet...
- 19 Jul 2016 22:34
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Questions on grammatical number & agreement
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3574
Re: Questions on grammatical number & agreement
Hi there! I'm not too well-versed on the topic, but since you're going with something fusional in this case rather than agglutinating, I'd make a distinction between mass nouns that are countable and uncountable . It just makes it easier as far as I can tell to clear that with at least some words. ...
- 19 Jul 2016 05:02
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
- Replies: 26
- Views: 6700
Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
no, you wouldn't . I can't say it's looking odd, but then, I need a bo"le of root beer. :) {would not \ can not \ it is \ bottle} Hee, I see what you did there. ;) one thing to remember: with your conlang, you are the deity: you have the final word (and the right to have a final word later on ...
- 19 Jul 2016 04:52
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Questions on grammatical number & agreement
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3574
Questions on grammatical number & agreement
As promised, I'm back with more questions. So I think I understand the basic singular-plural distinction pretty well at this point. :) Dual makes sense, for all it's somewhat rare. (Same for trial, quadral, paucal.) I sort of understand singulative-collective as well. What I've got some questions ab...
- 19 Jul 2016 03:42
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
- Replies: 26
- Views: 6700
Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
I...think I actually sort of re-invented that myself in the old version. I tacked it on with a hyphen, but yes, I had a particle that got added to the second noun. I didn't realize that that actually worked, lol. I left apostrophes out of my orthography entirely, just in case it would work to add i...
- 19 Jul 2016 02:33
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
- Replies: 26
- Views: 6700
Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
perhaps mutuality is the unmarked default? so, "Alice Bob bathes" means Alice and Bob are washing each other....while "Alice bathes" means Alice is washing herself? It's an intriguing idea, but I have a feeling I'd have to mark that it wasn't mutual far too much, and if there is...
- 19 Jul 2016 01:18
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
- Replies: 26
- Views: 6700
Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
that...depends. If each noun is separate, like Alice & Bob & Chris and their little love triangle, that's one thing. but if some of the nouns are not separate, like, " Alice's restaurant burned down"...that's another. aaaand I just lost my train of thought. sorry. I read about som...
- 18 Jul 2016 17:01
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
- Replies: 26
- Views: 6700
Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
Not the 64 cases of Tsez, then. The thing with that is that it seems to be more of the language showing several locational cases ("on", "in", "under" etc.) and then also marking direction with those cases ("to", "from", "through"), which m...
- 18 Jul 2016 11:48
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
- Replies: 26
- Views: 6700
Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
Welcome to the forum! have some tea and cake! Thanks! :) Regarding cases, the next challenge I found was how to express the differences between sentences such as the following: A: He left without a horse. B: He left without his horse. Assuming that one uses the abessive case, how would I distinguis...
- 18 Jul 2016 09:50
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
- Replies: 26
- Views: 6700
Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
Heartlang! I knew artlang and engelang and loglang and auxlang, but I'd never heard of heartlang. I love it. :) Yes, that's exactly what it is. It'd be more natural to me to make the ergative non-marked, and mark the absolutive, as far as that goes, though as I'm still in the early stages, I could l...
- 18 Jul 2016 08:05
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
- Replies: 26
- Views: 6700
Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
I think some of the quotes didn't work because you typed my nick without the middle N? A lot of people do that; I blame Dora the Explorer for making people see Dora+wen instead of Doran+wen, lol. If that's what you seek, then you will need a separate accusative and nominative case. The example you g...
- 18 Jul 2016 04:48
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
- Replies: 26
- Views: 6700
Struggling to grasp cases and voice
I may not be completely lost, but I feel like my brain just hits walls reading even the Wikipedia articles. I'll feel like I understand some and then I just am totally confused by how to apply anything I've just read to what I'm working on, and when I read words I don't understand, I feel even more ...