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by Doranwen
19 Jul 2017 06:46
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: A couple questions on rarity of features (stress and cases)
Replies: 9
Views: 3885

Re: A couple questions on rarity of features (stress and cas

Thanks! That is interesting to poke through. The vocabulary is a bit challenging at times but very educational. :)
by Doranwen
16 Jul 2017 05:44
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: A couple questions on rarity of features (stress and cases)
Replies: 9
Views: 3885

Re: A couple questions on rarity of features (stress and cas

I am pretty sure there are languages that keep the stress pattern from the source language (or just adjust them minimally). IIRC a lot of languages do this with loan words from French, which are stressed on the last syllable. Ah! *notes this down* I will probably do that, then, because I do intend ...
by Doranwen
15 Jul 2017 17:26
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: A couple questions on rarity of features (stress and cases)
Replies: 9
Views: 3885

Re: A couple questions on rarity of features (stress and cas

Both are definitely attested. In describing your language, you could say that the first syllable of a word is stressed (if it is E.ce.sar.len.cri) or that the first syllable of the root is stressed (if it is e.ce.SAR.len.cri). None of them are rare in natlangs. In some languages even only some pre-...
by Doranwen
15 Jul 2017 09:58
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: A couple questions on rarity of features (stress and cases)
Replies: 9
Views: 3885

A couple questions on rarity of features (stress and cases)

I posted a few times last year, struggling to grasp some basics, and then real life sort of took over and I didn't have a chance to work on my conlang (named Cerstan) properly for a long while. I've been pulling it out and working on it recently - spent one evening going through the dictionary and m...
by Doranwen
20 Jul 2016 18:14
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Questions on grammatical number & agreement
Replies: 13
Views: 3574

Re: Questions on grammatical number & agreement

Hmm... when there are numerals that makes it pretty easy to tell that it's plural, even if the noun itself doesn't have it marked. What about when there's no numeral to tell? Such as "Alice picked up the pencil" vs. "Alice picked up the pencils". Or "Alice picked up a penci...
by Doranwen
20 Jul 2016 08:09
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Questions on grammatical number & agreement
Replies: 13
Views: 3574

Re: Questions on grammatical number & agreement

You could try tacking the article on the noun in some way. Definite articles in Swedish are suffixes, if I remember correctly; would something similar work with your language? Hmm, an idea--though I've got case endings as suffixes too, so would end up with two suffixes. Not a problem really, just s...
by Doranwen
20 Jul 2016 06:43
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
Replies: 26
Views: 6700

Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice

Ooh, I like this. No new morphemes, but adds new levels of meaning possibilities. To give you a glimpse of the future: one common progression you see as conlangers gain more experience is that they start with a very heavy focus on morphology (ways to change the forms of words) and only later begin ...
by Doranwen
20 Jul 2016 02:31
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
Replies: 26
Views: 6700

Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice

Marking direction/location on a verb might mean either morphemes added to a verb that show a location or direction of motion, or completely stems for different kinds of motion. The former might look something like the following: bob-SUB hill-OBJ go-ABOVE Bob goes up the hill. Marking telicity (whet...
by Doranwen
19 Jul 2016 22:34
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Questions on grammatical number & agreement
Replies: 13
Views: 3574

Re: Questions on grammatical number & agreement

Hi there! I'm not too well-versed on the topic, but since you're going with something fusional in this case rather than agglutinating, I'd make a distinction between mass nouns that are countable and uncountable . It just makes it easier as far as I can tell to clear that with at least some words. ...
by Doranwen
19 Jul 2016 05:02
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
Replies: 26
Views: 6700

Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice

no, you wouldn't . I can't say it's looking odd, but then, I need a bo"le of root beer. :) {would not \ can not \ it is \ bottle} Hee, I see what you did there. ;) one thing to remember: with your conlang, you are the deity: you have the final word (and the right to have a final word later on ...
by Doranwen
19 Jul 2016 04:52
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Questions on grammatical number & agreement
Replies: 13
Views: 3574

Questions on grammatical number & agreement

As promised, I'm back with more questions. So I think I understand the basic singular-plural distinction pretty well at this point. :) Dual makes sense, for all it's somewhat rare. (Same for trial, quadral, paucal.) I sort of understand singulative-collective as well. What I've got some questions ab...
by Doranwen
19 Jul 2016 03:42
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
Replies: 26
Views: 6700

Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice

I...think I actually sort of re-invented that myself in the old version. I tacked it on with a hyphen, but yes, I had a particle that got added to the second noun. I didn't realize that that actually worked, lol. I left apostrophes out of my orthography entirely, just in case it would work to add i...
by Doranwen
19 Jul 2016 02:33
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
Replies: 26
Views: 6700

Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice

perhaps mutuality is the unmarked default? so, "Alice Bob bathes" means Alice and Bob are washing each other....while "Alice bathes" means Alice is washing herself? It's an intriguing idea, but I have a feeling I'd have to mark that it wasn't mutual far too much, and if there is...
by Doranwen
19 Jul 2016 01:18
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
Replies: 26
Views: 6700

Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice

that...depends. If each noun is separate, like Alice & Bob & Chris and their little love triangle, that's one thing. but if some of the nouns are not separate, like, " Alice's restaurant burned down"...that's another. aaaand I just lost my train of thought. sorry. I read about som...
by Doranwen
18 Jul 2016 17:01
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
Replies: 26
Views: 6700

Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice

Not the 64 cases of Tsez, then. The thing with that is that it seems to be more of the language showing several locational cases ("on", "in", "under" etc.) and then also marking direction with those cases ("to", "from", "through"), which m...
by Doranwen
18 Jul 2016 11:48
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
Replies: 26
Views: 6700

Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice

Welcome to the forum! have some tea and cake! Thanks! :) Regarding cases, the next challenge I found was how to express the differences between sentences such as the following: A: He left without a horse. B: He left without his horse. Assuming that one uses the abessive case, how would I distinguis...
by Doranwen
18 Jul 2016 09:50
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
Replies: 26
Views: 6700

Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice

Heartlang! I knew artlang and engelang and loglang and auxlang, but I'd never heard of heartlang. I love it. :) Yes, that's exactly what it is. It'd be more natural to me to make the ergative non-marked, and mark the absolutive, as far as that goes, though as I'm still in the early stages, I could l...
by Doranwen
18 Jul 2016 08:05
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
Replies: 26
Views: 6700

Re: Struggling to grasp cases and voice

I think some of the quotes didn't work because you typed my nick without the middle N? A lot of people do that; I blame Dora the Explorer for making people see Dora+wen instead of Doran+wen, lol. If that's what you seek, then you will need a separate accusative and nominative case. The example you g...
by Doranwen
18 Jul 2016 04:48
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Struggling to grasp cases and voice
Replies: 26
Views: 6700

Struggling to grasp cases and voice

I may not be completely lost, but I feel like my brain just hits walls reading even the Wikipedia articles. I'll feel like I understand some and then I just am totally confused by how to apply anything I've just read to what I'm working on, and when I read words I don't understand, I feel even more ...