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by hadad
27 Dec 2012 16:47
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Alveolarized consonant? Does it exist? How would I IPA it?
Replies: 17
Views: 3713

Re: Alveolarized consonant? Does it exist? How would I IPA i

I pronounced the rest of the consonants alongside some nasals. Nasals are similar but they're pronounced with the tongue back more. I think I have here a rhotic consonant of some sort. Not what I'm familiar though, I'm from the adirondacks, my "r"s are usually retroflex. Also, that acciden...
by hadad
26 Dec 2012 22:23
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Alveolarized consonant? Does it exist? How would I IPA it?
Replies: 17
Views: 3713

Re: Alveolarized consonant? Does it exist? How would I IPA i

It's definitely not apical, its the middle of the tongue touching.

Like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuEZxjcJ ... e=youtu.be
by hadad
26 Dec 2012 19:22
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: What happens when a language loses tone?
Replies: 12
Views: 3407

Re: What happens when a language loses tone?

There must be much more knowledgeable people on the board, but there is the example of Greek, which lost pitch accent. It was simply replaced by stress apparently. Also, according to this thread , tone loss happened in Khmer. Haha, stumbled upon exactly that after posting this. Thank you guys! I'm ...
by hadad
26 Dec 2012 19:08
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Alveolarized consonant? Does it exist? How would I IPA it?
Replies: 17
Views: 3713

Re: Alveolarized consonant? Does it exist? How would I IPA i

I have m, p, b, f, v, w, n, t, d, ɹ, l, ɕ, ʑ, ŋ, k, and g all "alveolarized". It's similar to alveolar-palatals but the tongue is more forward. Advanced tongue root maybe? Also, these "alveolarized" consonants have palatal and labial forms. And can't be pharyngeal like the non-&q...
by hadad
26 Dec 2012 18:57
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Alveolarized consonant? Does it exist? How would I IPA it?
Replies: 17
Views: 3713

Alveolarized consonant? Does it exist? How would I IPA it?

Okay, so I've figured out a phonology I've really liked. Finally. Though it has over 100 consonants (that would be a conservative estimate). Anyway, I'm not sure what consonant this would be I've been adding into my inventories. Basically, the part of your tongue that touches your palate for palatal...
by hadad
20 Dec 2012 20:55
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: What happens when a language loses tone?
Replies: 12
Views: 3407

What happens when a language loses tone?

Are there any examples of languages which we know to have formerly had lexical tone, but have lost tone distinction via phonological change? Did it alter any of the neighboring consonants or the vowels themselves? And in what way? Just looking for ideas, though I want to start with a low number of c...
by hadad
14 Dec 2012 19:59
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Prepositions turning into cases
Replies: 18
Views: 3909

Re: Prepositions turning into cases

According to one theory cases emerged from postpositions merging with the preceding word. Is this also true for prepositions, i.e. is there an attested natlang in which cases are marked with prefixes? pre-fix. Pre- is kinda like a preposition that is kinda like those that are also used as cases. Al...
by hadad
06 Oct 2012 19:29
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Uskra.
Replies: 47
Views: 6019

Re: Uskra.

The phonology reminds me of Sepatuk. (s)C(r), except I've added in nasals to the consonant clusters and expanded upon sepatuk a little.
by hadad
30 Sep 2012 14:49
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Revived Sumerian?
Replies: 60
Views: 13519

Re: Revived Sumerian?

Sounds like a great idea for doing on an online forum, but I don't think he was thinking of doing it IRL just yet. I'd agree in that case, poorly undestood for that sort of thing.

Let's begin!
by hadad
26 Sep 2012 16:01
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Logogram-Based and Pictoral Languages
Replies: 10
Views: 4951

Re: Logogram-Based and Pictoral Languages

One thing you can look to is the Vinca, Egyptian (abovementioned), Sumerian, ProtoElamite, Harappan, and the script found on a tablet from the BMAC culture. Also, the writing from the PrePotteryNeolithic B culture found in the fertile cresent. Gotta find the name. I've been inspired to do one, but I...
by hadad
29 Aug 2012 20:54
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Sound change wrecking verb paradigms
Replies: 4
Views: 1276

Re: Sound change wrecking verb paradigms

That's why my protolangs tend to have such simplistic phonology, to try to preserve older features. The changes to verb paradigms could be good though. Just look what it has done to english. English has become much more expressive.
by hadad
28 Aug 2012 14:37
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Pronouns and Aspect/Tense/Mood
Replies: 4
Views: 999

Re: Pronouns and Aspect/Tense/Mood

pittmirg wrote:Wolof has already gotten where English may be heading:

http://wolofresources.org/language/down ... _notes.pdf
OMG! Ty! I've been looking for stuff on wolof, you saved me from having to buy it for now.
by hadad
28 Aug 2012 14:30
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Stress in conlangs
Replies: 62
Views: 25450

Re: Stress in conlangs

I'm thinking of making Sepatuk have lexical stress.
by hadad
26 Aug 2012 02:16
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Papisa-samama
Replies: 10
Views: 3143

Re: Papisa-samama

Also, Buddhism isn't just about being simple, it isn't about that at all. To me, the language seems lazylead.
by hadad
21 Aug 2012 18:09
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Orthography Reform
Replies: 522
Views: 170666

Re: English Orthography Reform

Whatever came of foreign origin, is pronounced like english. Whatever came from old anglisc now is pronounced like english. There is no dilemma. This is a far simpler task than you paint it as. The problems with english spelling, is that there are so many variant spellings, and on top of that, so ma...
by hadad
21 Aug 2012 17:26
Forum: Conworlds & Concultures
Topic: Conastronomy and or Conastrology
Replies: 5
Views: 2307

Conastronomy and or Conastrology

The Sepatuk speakers aren't really big on astronomy or astrology, but they do have legends based on the stars. Orion's constellation is known as "The Hunter", and is the constellation of that god. The big and little dippers are the Big Deer and Little Deer. As can be seen from the Sepatuk ...
by hadad
21 Aug 2012 16:33
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Papisa-samama
Replies: 10
Views: 3143

Re: Papisa-samama

And I thought some of my protolanguages were bad. And those were intentionally incomplete, because the rest of their grammar was to be replaced by completely other languages. In fact, their very existence was to justify the grammatical features of later languages, and not to actually be a speakable ...
by hadad
09 Aug 2012 23:59
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Sepatuk
Replies: 9
Views: 1695

Re: Sepatuk

*I'm debating including nominal, adjectival and adverbial prefixes, but I might just leave the root be, and only add affixes if they become necessary. Could you explain what these things mean? Are they inflectional or derivational affixes? I wrote this when I wasn't even sure if they would exist ye...
by hadad
28 Jul 2012 22:34
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Sepatuk
Replies: 9
Views: 1695

Re: Sepatuk

I want to pronounce the vowels that aren't followed by consonants at the ends of words differently sometimes. So I'm changing the "u" above, at the end of the word, to be /u/ and the "e" to actually sound like /e/ as opposed to what I have above.
by hadad
20 Jul 2012 02:15
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Looks like I got no choice
Replies: 4
Views: 936

Re: Looks like I got no choice

When you make a language, and want to keep the loanwords "pure" (mostly unchanged), I've come to realize that you have no choice but to have irregular inflections. Do you mean that you borrow your words with its inflections? Otherwise it would make sense to use either (1) a regular affix,...