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- 27 Dec 2012 16:47
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Alveolarized consonant? Does it exist? How would I IPA it?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 3713
Re: Alveolarized consonant? Does it exist? How would I IPA i
I pronounced the rest of the consonants alongside some nasals. Nasals are similar but they're pronounced with the tongue back more. I think I have here a rhotic consonant of some sort. Not what I'm familiar though, I'm from the adirondacks, my "r"s are usually retroflex. Also, that acciden...
- 26 Dec 2012 22:23
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Alveolarized consonant? Does it exist? How would I IPA it?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 3713
Re: Alveolarized consonant? Does it exist? How would I IPA i
It's definitely not apical, its the middle of the tongue touching.
Like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuEZxjcJ ... e=youtu.be
Like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuEZxjcJ ... e=youtu.be
- 26 Dec 2012 19:22
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: What happens when a language loses tone?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 3407
Re: What happens when a language loses tone?
There must be much more knowledgeable people on the board, but there is the example of Greek, which lost pitch accent. It was simply replaced by stress apparently. Also, according to this thread , tone loss happened in Khmer. Haha, stumbled upon exactly that after posting this. Thank you guys! I'm ...
- 26 Dec 2012 19:08
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Alveolarized consonant? Does it exist? How would I IPA it?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 3713
Re: Alveolarized consonant? Does it exist? How would I IPA i
I have m, p, b, f, v, w, n, t, d, ɹ, l, ɕ, ʑ, ŋ, k, and g all "alveolarized". It's similar to alveolar-palatals but the tongue is more forward. Advanced tongue root maybe? Also, these "alveolarized" consonants have palatal and labial forms. And can't be pharyngeal like the non-&q...
- 26 Dec 2012 18:57
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Alveolarized consonant? Does it exist? How would I IPA it?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 3713
Alveolarized consonant? Does it exist? How would I IPA it?
Okay, so I've figured out a phonology I've really liked. Finally. Though it has over 100 consonants (that would be a conservative estimate). Anyway, I'm not sure what consonant this would be I've been adding into my inventories. Basically, the part of your tongue that touches your palate for palatal...
- 20 Dec 2012 20:55
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: What happens when a language loses tone?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 3407
What happens when a language loses tone?
Are there any examples of languages which we know to have formerly had lexical tone, but have lost tone distinction via phonological change? Did it alter any of the neighboring consonants or the vowels themselves? And in what way? Just looking for ideas, though I want to start with a low number of c...
- 14 Dec 2012 19:59
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Prepositions turning into cases
- Replies: 18
- Views: 3909
Re: Prepositions turning into cases
According to one theory cases emerged from postpositions merging with the preceding word. Is this also true for prepositions, i.e. is there an attested natlang in which cases are marked with prefixes? pre-fix. Pre- is kinda like a preposition that is kinda like those that are also used as cases. Al...
Re: Uskra.
The phonology reminds me of Sepatuk. (s)C(r), except I've added in nasals to the consonant clusters and expanded upon sepatuk a little.
- 30 Sep 2012 14:49
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Revived Sumerian?
- Replies: 60
- Views: 13519
Re: Revived Sumerian?
Sounds like a great idea for doing on an online forum, but I don't think he was thinking of doing it IRL just yet. I'd agree in that case, poorly undestood for that sort of thing.
Let's begin!
Let's begin!
- 26 Sep 2012 16:01
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Logogram-Based and Pictoral Languages
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4951
Re: Logogram-Based and Pictoral Languages
One thing you can look to is the Vinca, Egyptian (abovementioned), Sumerian, ProtoElamite, Harappan, and the script found on a tablet from the BMAC culture. Also, the writing from the PrePotteryNeolithic B culture found in the fertile cresent. Gotta find the name. I've been inspired to do one, but I...
- 29 Aug 2012 20:54
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Sound change wrecking verb paradigms
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1276
Re: Sound change wrecking verb paradigms
That's why my protolangs tend to have such simplistic phonology, to try to preserve older features. The changes to verb paradigms could be good though. Just look what it has done to english. English has become much more expressive.
- 28 Aug 2012 14:37
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Pronouns and Aspect/Tense/Mood
- Replies: 4
- Views: 999
Re: Pronouns and Aspect/Tense/Mood
OMG! Ty! I've been looking for stuff on wolof, you saved me from having to buy it for now.pittmirg wrote:Wolof has already gotten where English may be heading:
http://wolofresources.org/language/down ... _notes.pdf
- 28 Aug 2012 14:30
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Stress in conlangs
- Replies: 62
- Views: 25450
Re: Stress in conlangs
I'm thinking of making Sepatuk have lexical stress.
- 26 Aug 2012 02:16
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Papisa-samama
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3143
Re: Papisa-samama
Also, Buddhism isn't just about being simple, it isn't about that at all. To me, the language seems lazylead.
- 21 Aug 2012 18:09
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: English Orthography Reform
- Replies: 522
- Views: 170666
Re: English Orthography Reform
Whatever came of foreign origin, is pronounced like english. Whatever came from old anglisc now is pronounced like english. There is no dilemma. This is a far simpler task than you paint it as. The problems with english spelling, is that there are so many variant spellings, and on top of that, so ma...
- 21 Aug 2012 17:26
- Forum: Conworlds & Concultures
- Topic: Conastronomy and or Conastrology
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2307
Conastronomy and or Conastrology
The Sepatuk speakers aren't really big on astronomy or astrology, but they do have legends based on the stars. Orion's constellation is known as "The Hunter", and is the constellation of that god. The big and little dippers are the Big Deer and Little Deer. As can be seen from the Sepatuk ...
- 21 Aug 2012 16:33
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Papisa-samama
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3143
Re: Papisa-samama
And I thought some of my protolanguages were bad. And those were intentionally incomplete, because the rest of their grammar was to be replaced by completely other languages. In fact, their very existence was to justify the grammatical features of later languages, and not to actually be a speakable ...
Re: Sepatuk
*I'm debating including nominal, adjectival and adverbial prefixes, but I might just leave the root be, and only add affixes if they become necessary. Could you explain what these things mean? Are they inflectional or derivational affixes? I wrote this when I wasn't even sure if they would exist ye...
Re: Sepatuk
I want to pronounce the vowels that aren't followed by consonants at the ends of words differently sometimes. So I'm changing the "u" above, at the end of the word, to be /u/ and the "e" to actually sound like /e/ as opposed to what I have above.
- 20 Jul 2012 02:15
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Looks like I got no choice
- Replies: 4
- Views: 936
Re: Looks like I got no choice
When you make a language, and want to keep the loanwords "pure" (mostly unchanged), I've come to realize that you have no choice but to have irregular inflections. Do you mean that you borrow your words with its inflections? Otherwise it would make sense to use either (1) a regular affix,...