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Perfection Obsession

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Am I among few or many who are obsessed about perfection in their conworld?

I can sit for hours work on details, calculations, estimations, measuring and whatnot to achive it all to perfect scale and more. are anyone equally obsessed?
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I guess I have the same feelings, but my perfectionism is frequently overpowered by sloth.
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Hah, as an example I am using other poles than magnetic ones and I am working on finding a formula to see what the compasses will show when they are at any place on the planet
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zelos wrote:Am I among few or many who are obsessed about perfection in their conworld?

I can sit for hours work on details, calculations, estimations, measuring and whatnot to achive it all to perfect scale and more. are anyone equally obsessed?
Yes, I sat once a few days calculating parameters of my conplanet Aore (aka. Lunateraz) and its solar system, Fdain (Zeusoles).
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Milya0 wrote:
zelos wrote:Am I among few or many who are obsessed about perfection in their conworld?

I can sit for hours work on details, calculations, estimations, measuring and whatnot to achive it all to perfect scale and more. are anyone equally obsessed?
Yes, I sat once a few days calculating parameters of my conplanet Aore (aka. Lunateraz) and its solar system, Fdain (Zeusoles).
"Zeusoles" is remarkibly similar ot my name XD

Care to elaborate what you were calculating?
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zelos wrote:"Zeusoles" is remarkibly similar ot my name XD
Lunateraz is from "Luna" and "Terra". Zeusoles is from "Zeus" and "Sol".
zelos wrote:Care to elaborate what you were calculating?
- Image - photo of Lunateraz
- some parameters of orbit: semi-major axis is 141 500 000 km, peryhelium is 138 670 000 km, aphelium is 144 330 000 km
- dates of moons transfers: Mati fdefei on 26 March 2517, Athun/Aftun on 5 August 2518
- that Lunateran day (lika) is 25 h 11 min 15 s long and Lunateran year (ramu) is 331,719 d (316 lika)
- parametres of planets of Fdain and these pictures: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2 ... f2/Zeu.png (orbits comparison) http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2 ... 4/Zeu5.png (size comparison)
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Right now, my obsession tends more toward the "perfect" language and script, numerology, and governmental structures. In other words, I'm one of those sticks in the mud who might spend my entire life on the paperwork of one conworld. But this is mostly so that the systems could be simulated on the simplest and most elegant of machines.
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Sometimes I get on "perfection benders" where I try making things as naturalistic as possible, for example, my latest conlang's noun declension paradigms.

I haven't made a conworld yet, as I have no experience with realistic solar systems, etc, but I can imagine that once my conlangs are fleshed out enough, I will start working on the setting for them.

I like perfecting an idea when it is interesting for others too. I don't do conlangs and concultures solely for my amusement.
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Bristel wrote:Sometimes I get on "perfection benders" where I try making things as naturalistic as possible, for example, my latest conlang's noun declension paradigms.

I haven't made a conworld yet, as I have no experience with realistic solar systems, etc, but I can imagine that once my conlangs are fleshed out enough, I will start working on the setting for them.

I like perfecting an idea when it is interesting for others too. I don't do conlangs and concultures solely for my amusement.
then what eslse?
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Bristel wrote:I haven't made a conworld yet, as I have no experience with realistic solar systems, etc, but I can imagine that once my conlangs are fleshed out enough, I will start working on the setting for them.
Does a conworld needs to be realistic?
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Tanni wrote:
Bristel wrote:I haven't made a conworld yet, as I have no experience with realistic solar systems, etc, but I can imagine that once my conlangs are fleshed out enough, I will start working on the setting for them.
Does a conworld needs to be realistic?
depends on what kind but to a certain extent the answer is "yes" but in many ways depending on how its done the answer is "no"
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zelos wrote:
Bristel wrote:Sometimes I get on "perfection benders" where I try making things as naturalistic as possible, for example, my latest conlang's noun declension paradigms.

I haven't made a conworld yet, as I have no experience with realistic solar systems, etc, but I can imagine that once my conlangs are fleshed out enough, I will start working on the setting for them.

I like perfecting an idea when it is interesting for others too. I don't do conlangs and concultures solely for my amusement.
then what eslse?
For people with any sort of interest in that sort of thing.
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Bristel wrote:I haven't made a conworld yet, as I have no experience with realistic solar systems, etc, but I can imagine that once my conlangs are fleshed out enough, I will start working on the setting for them.
Does a conworld needs to be realistic?
No not really, if the conworld was unrealistic, I'd still try to make an effort to flesh out as many important details as possible.
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If its too unrealistic people have a hard time connecting with it
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Bristel wrote:
Tanni wrote:
Bristel wrote:I haven't made a conworld yet, as I have no experience with realistic solar systems, etc, but I can imagine that once my conlangs are fleshed out enough, I will start working on the setting for them.
Does a conworld needs to be realistic?
No not really, if the conworld was unrealistic, I'd still try to make an effort to flesh out as many important details as possible.
Do you mean the conworld or the conlang?

It's more important that the conworld is consistent in itself then that it is realistic. People nowadays are used to extremly unrealistic settings, if they are open to fictional settings at all.
zelos wrote:If its too unrealistic people have a hard time connecting with it
Look at some children's films e.g. Mouse on Mars, where they have a totally unrealistic setting concerning Mars. But it is easy connecting to it because the many things there known form Earth and maybe because it's made form stories written by children, IIRC.
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One reason my conworld isn't finished is due to my attention to detail bordering on what I would like to call a casual obsession, meaning that it's not constantly on my mind, but when I do sit down and work on it, it's with a dedication to ensuring that the details are as believable as possible. The internal integrity comes above all else, but there is as strict an adherence to what I know of this world and its physics, social interactions, the lessons of history and evolution (human and otherwise), etc., that help me determine the growth of my world and its peoples in as organic a way as I can manage.

I don't think that any conworld need be "realistic" per se, as long as it is consistent with itself, so that the rules you make are the rules it follows. What I'm looking for is the willing suspension of disbelief, and I think the more one takes reality into account while building, the more someone else might be willing to play along.
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I don't think perfection or realism is what I'd be looking for. Detail is what I like. I spent an hour or so the other day just naming spacecraft. Most of which would barely be featured in the book. Then I went further to name individual bombers or fighters in a fleet which would certainly never get a mention.

What I would like to do re: realism is design an area of the galaxy which would include where certain stars are, the distance they are from different planets, what they would look like in the night sky and what constellations they would make up. I don't really know how to go about it though because of the 3D aspect of it. I've considered hanging ball bearings from my ceiling and working it out like that.
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zelos: Are you a total perfectionist when it comes to your con-efforts?
Veris: Not. Even. A little.

My ideas come outta me like flu-induced vomit; an involuntary, messy splatter that makes other people shirk away and feel sorry for me. Plus, I'm lazy as pie, so...you know.
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I sit in front of the computer screen for a long time not because I'm a perfectionist but because I work on obscure consubjects (for example conmath)
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How does con math work?
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Veris wrote:zelos: Are you a total perfectionist when it comes to your con-efforts?
Veris: Not. Even. A little.

My ideas come outta me like flu-induced vomit; an involuntary, messy splatter that makes other people shirk away and feel sorry for me. Plus, I'm lazy as pie, so...you know.
Im a perfectionist to my goal no matter what it is but only to the degree which I think its possible to achive it
Veris wrote:How does con math work?
you usually start with different initial assumptions/usages and see how it goes from there
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