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ixals wrote:Le Japonais, c'est aussi une langue très intéressant à étudier, mais je dois me concentrer sur des langues qui j’ai déjà commencé. [:'(]
Japanese is also a very interesting language to study, but I have to concentrate myself on the languages I've already begun.

Et finalement, j’ai mon baccalauréat! Je suis content de ma note anglaise. J’ai reçu une A-, mais ma note française, c’est une B- malheureusement (mais aussi compréhensible à mon avis).
And I finally graduated! I'm happy with my English mark. I've got an A-, but my French mark is sadly (but imo also understandably) a B-.

Próbuję znowu uczyć się polskiego. To jest bardzo trudny, jednak próbuję.
I try to learn Polish again. It is very difficult, but I try.
"concentrate" er ikke et refleksivt verb på engelsk. Hvis vi sier noe, sier vi kanskje "force myself to concentrate", men vi som oftest bare sier "concentrate".
"concentrate" isn't a reflexive verb in English. If we say anything, we might say "force myself to concentrate", but we usually just say "concentrate".

Og det enkle presens kan ikke bli brukt i den sammenhengen. Siden du begynner igjen, ville jeg sagt "I'm going to try" for begge, men "I'm trying" ville fungert like godt.
And the simple present can't be used in that context. Since you're starting again, I'd say "I'm going to try" for both, but "I'm trying" would work just as well.
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ixals wrote:Le japonais est aussi une langue très intéressante à étudier, mais je dois me concentrer sur des langues que j’ai déjà commencées. [:'(]
Japanese is also a very interesting language to study, but I have to concentrate myself on the languages I've already begun.

Et finalement, j’ai mon baccalauréat! Je suis content de ma note en anglaise. J’ai reçu une A-, mais ma note en française est une B- malheureusement (mais c'est aussi compréhensible à mon avis).
And I finally graduated! I'm happy with my English mark. I've got an A-, but my French mark is sadly (but imo also understandably) a B-.

Próbuję znowu uczyć się polskiego. To jest bardzo trudny, jednak próbuję.
I try to learn Polish again. It is very difficult, but I try.
Félicitations !
Congratulations!
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Tu as envie d'étudier le japonais un jour ?
Do you want to study Japanese someday?
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ixals wrote:Le Japonais, c'est aussi une langue très intéressant à étudier, mais je dois me concentrer sur des langues qui j’ai déjà commencé.
Japanese is also a very interesting language to study, but I have to concentrate on the languages I've already begun.
Le japonais est aussi une langue très intéressante à étudier, mais je dois me concentrer sur des langues que j’ai déjà commencées. [:'(]
Japanese is also a very interesting language to study, but I have to concentrate myself on the languages I've already begun.
Why did you nix the c' of c'est? I would think that more a style/register choice. And how 'bout, "les langues que j’ai déjà commencées"?
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Lao Kou wrote:
Dormouse559 wrote:
ixals wrote:Le Japonais, c'est aussi une langue très intéressant à étudier, mais je dois me concentrer sur des langues qui j’ai déjà commencé.
Japanese is also a very interesting language to study, but I have to concentrate on the languages I've already begun.
Le japonais est aussi une langue très intéressante à étudier, mais je dois me concentrer sur des langues que j’ai déjà commencées. [:'(]
Japanese is also a very interesting language to study, but I have to concentrate myself on the languages I've already begun.
Why did you nix the c' of c'est? I would think that more a style/register choice.
I agree. There's nothing wrong with using c' here.
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Lao Kou wrote:Why did you nix the c' of c'est? I would think that more a style/register choice.
You're right. Ixals, please ignore the two places where I changed c'est to est.
Lao Kou wrote:And how 'bout, "les langues que j’ai déjà commencées"?
Sure. I didn't notice ixals used the definite article in English.
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Znex wrote:今日は, シモバーターさん! お元気ですか?
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If you write it using kanji, it looks like "kyou wa".

("kyou wa" = 今日 kyou "today" + the topic particle は wa)
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Morgen reise ich nach Deutschland (Ich komme aus Amerika). Ich lerne seit drei Jahren Deutsch, aber ich kann es nicht gar sprechen. Ich kann die Wörter lesen, aber kann meine eigene Sätze nicht gut schreiben. Ich bin mit einer Gruppe, also werde ich nicht viel sprechen müssen. [:'(] [:'(] [:'(] [:'(]


Tomorrow I'm going to Germany (I'm from America). I've been learning German for three years, but I can't speak it at all. I can read the words but can't write my own sentences well. I'm with a group, so I won't have to talk a lot...
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AlwaysForget wrote:Morgen reise ich nach Deutschland (Ich komme aus Amerika). Ich lerne seit drei Jahren Deutsch, aber ich kann es nicht gar sprechen. Ich kann die Wörter lesen, aber kann meine eigene Sätze nicht gut schreiben. Ich bin mit einer Gruppe, also werde ich nicht viel sprechen müssen. [:'(] [:'(] [:'(] [:'(]


Tomorrow I'm going to Germany (I'm from America). I've been learning German for three years, but I can't speak it at all. I can read the words but can't write my own sentences well. I'm with a group, so I won't have to talk a lot...
(Corrections welcome)
Na wenn gibt es irgendwo, der der beste Ort zum lernen Deutsch ist, er ist Deutschland.
Well if there's anywhere that's the best place for learning German, it's Germany.

Also nutz du die Gelegenheit zum sprechen Deutsch, so viel wie du kannst! [:D]
So take the opportunity to speak German as much as you can!
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Znex wrote:Na wenn gibt es irgendwo, der ist der beste Ort zum lernen Deutsch, er ist Deutschland.
Soll man wo hier nicht benutzen, weil irgendwo ein Dingwort nicht ist?
Shouldn't wo be used here since irgendwo isn't a noun?
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All4Ɇn wrote:
Znex wrote:Na wenn gibt es irgendwo, der ist der beste Ort zum lernen Deutsch, er ist Deutschland.
Soll man wo hier nicht benutzen, weil irgendwo ein Dingwort nicht ist?
Shouldn't wo be used here since irgendwo isn't a noun?
Ich weiß nicht. Ich kann nicht irgendeine Regel finden, die das sagt.
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AlwaysForget wrote:Morgen reise ich nach Deutschland (Ich komme aus Amerika). Ich lerne seit drei Jahren Deutsch, aber ich kann es gar nicht sprechen. Ich kann die Wörter lesen, aber kann meine eigenen Sätze nicht gut schreiben. Ich bin mit einer Gruppe, also werde ich nicht viel sprechen müssen.
Kijerumani changu ni kizuri.
Your German is good.

Huenda ningesema Worte badala ya Wörter kwa sababu Worte inamaanisha maneno mengi pamoja na Wörter inamaanisha maneno fulani-fulani. Lakini si lugha yangu ya kwanza.
Possibly I would say "Worte" instead of "Wörter" because "Worte" means many words together and "Wörter" means individual words. It's not my first language though.
Znex wrote:Na wenn gibt es irgendwo, der der beste Ort zum lernen Deutsch ist, er ist Deutschland.
Also nutz du die Gelegenheit zum sprechen Deutsch, so viel wie du kannst!
Sina hakika ya jinsi ya kudubu hiyo, lakini ningeisema kwa jinsi ifuatayo:
I'm not sure how to correct this, but I would say it as follows:

Naja, wenn es einen Ort gibt, der zum Deutschlernen am besten geeignet ist, ist es* Deutschland.
(Or: Naja, Deutschland ist ja der beste Ort zum Deutschlernen.)

Also nutz ** die Gelegenheit, so viel Deutsch zu sprechen, wie du kannst.

*I'm not sure why, but er sounds wrong to me here even though I can't think exactly why ... like, it's not referring to the Ort but just to a general "it" ... but I might be completely wrong and maybe er is the only possible answer. The more I think about it, the less sure I become ...

** If you include du here, it really stresses it far to much, like there's a contrast in subjects, such as: "Seize the opportunity to..." "No, you seize the opportunity!" You need to use the pronoun in the imperative with Sie but not with du or ihr.
All4Ɇn wrote:Sollte man hier nicht wo benutzen*, weil "irgendwo" kein Dingwort nicht ist?
Shouldn't wo be used here since irgendwo isn't a noun?
*I feel that wo should come later in the sentence because it's strongly in focus. Benutzen feels a bit awkward to me and I'd prefer verwenden, but I guess both are right. Sollte is the general "should". If you just use soll it sounds a bit like it's prescribed by someone else. Er sagt, ich soll nach Hause kommen. (He said, I should come home.) In this sentence, the effect of soll would be a bit like "Isn't one supposed to use wo here?"

Dingwort is, in my experience, not common at all. Nomen and Substantiv are used far more often and of the purely Germanic words for "nouns", I think I've seen Hauptwort the most often. There's a ridiculous number of words for parts of speech in German.
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Imralu wrote:Dingwort is, in my experience, not common at all. Nomen and Substantiv are used far more often and of the purely Germanic words for "nouns", I think I've seen Hauptwort the most often. There's a ridiculous number of words for parts of speech in German.
Grazie per tutte le tue correzioni. Avevo l'intenzione di usare Nomen ma ho usato Wiktionary per assicurarmi che usavo la parola giusta e non ho visto Nomen e ho visto Dingwort invece. Non ero familiare con la parola ma presupponevo che avevo confuso Nomen con la parola francese nom.

Thanks for all the corrections. I was planning on using Nomen but I was using Wiktionary to check that I was using the right word and didn't see Nomen and saw Dingwort instead. I wasn't familiar with the word but I just assumed I had confused Nomen with the French word nom.
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Matatizo ya watu wanaojua lugha nyingi...
Polyglot problems...
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Je n'ai jamais entendu le mot « Dingwort » moi non plus. À l'école, on a utilisé seulement « Nomen » ou « Substantiv », et quand j'étais en école primaire, les profs disaient « Namenwort ». Mais je sais que ma mère m'a dit qu'elle le reconnais comme un « Hauptwort » aussi.
I've never heard the word "Dingwort" either. At school we've only used "Nomen" or "Substantiv" and when I was in primary school, the teachers said "Namenwort". But I know my mother told me that she knows it as "Hauptwort", too.
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AlwaysForget wrote: Morgen reise ich nach Deutschland (Ich komme aus Amerika). Ich lerne seit drei Jahren Deutsch, aber ich kann es gar nicht sprechen. Ich kann die Wörter lesen, aber kann meine eigenen Sätze nicht gut schreiben. Ich bin mit einer Gruppe, also werde ich nicht viel sprechen müssen.
Kijerumani changu ni kizuri.
Your German is good.

Huenda ningesema Worte badala ya Wörter kwa sababu Worte inamaanisha maneno mengi pamoja na Wörter inamaanisha maneno fulani-fulani. Lakini si lugha yangu ya kwanza.
Possibly I would say "Worte" instead of "Wörter" because "Worte" means many words together and "Wörter" means individual words. It's not my first language though.
Je suis d'accord. Tu es vraiment bien à parler l'allemand.
I agree. You're very good at speaking German.

Mais je dois dire que "Ich kann die Wörter/Worte lesen" sonne mal à mes oreilles. Je dirais "Ich kann es (das Deutsch) lesen" en ce cas. C'est plus naturel à mon avis.

But I have to say that "Ich kann die Wörter/Worte lesen" doesn't sound good to me. I would say "Ich kann es (das Deutsch) lesen" in this case. It sounds more natural in my opinion.
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I've just shaved my beard off. I feel naked and exposed.
Acabo de cultivar una barba. Se` como te sientes.
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Konungr wrote:Ich habe gerade meinen Bart abrasiert. Ich fühle nackt und ausgestellt entblößt.
I've just shaved my beard off. I feel naked and exposed.
La parola coretta sarebbe "entblößt" invece di "ausgestellt". "Ausgestellt" è per una mostra dell'arte.
The correct word would be "entblößt", instead of "ausgestellt". "Ausgestellt" is for an exhibition of art.
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Konungr wrote:Ich habe gerade meinen Bart abrasiert. Ich fühle mich nackt und ausgestellt entblößt.
I've just shaved my beard off. I feel naked and exposed.
La parola coretta sarebbe "entblößt" invece di "ausgestellt". "Ausgestellt" è per una mostra dell'arte.
The correct word would be "entblößt", instead of "ausgestellt". "Ausgestellt" is for an exhibition of art.
Harus ada refleksif juga.
Also there has to a reflexive pronoun.
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Konungr wrote:Ich habe gerade meinen Bart abrasiert. Ich fühle nackt und ausgestellt.
I've just shaved my beard off. I feel naked and exposed.
Я знаю эту проблему. Лишь несколько недель назад я тоже сбрил мою бородку за костюм и потом чувствовал себя как ребёнок.
I know that problem. Just a few weeks ago I also shaved my beard off for a costume and felt like a little child afterwards.

Ayer yo he comenzado a aprender español. Ya he estudiado algunas palabras, pero aún no sé mucho de la gramática española y porque mi frases probablemente no tienen mucho sentido.
Yesterday I started to learn Spanisch. I already learnt a few words, but I do not know much about the Spanish grammar yet, so probably my sentences do not make much sense.
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