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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 16 Feb 2017 19:08
by DesEsseintes
I have, after years of resisting it, fallen in love with clicks, and now they are all I can think about.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 16 Feb 2017 19:53
by lsd
Working on 3D writing simplification and normalization...
not enough finalized...

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 16 Feb 2017 20:36
by Frislander
DesEsseintes wrote:I have, after years of resisting it, fallen in love with clicks, and now they are all I can think about.
They're so cute aren't they! They're like the group of sounds even non-linguists enjoy hearing about, they're that good!

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 16 Feb 2017 21:09
by lsd

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 17 Feb 2017 06:39
by Ahzoh
Added more creatures to the list of Vrkhazhian mythological beings:
http://conworkshop.info/view_article.ph ... e00674571e

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 17 Feb 2017 18:53
by Egerius
I accomplished this today (now with sound!):

Sċieldan mé sċẹal stæf in mínre hand / fram sċytum and sċẹaðum mid þæs stánes strengðe.
[ˈʃɪʏ̯ɫdɑn meː ˈʃæl | ˈstæf ɪn ˌmiːnɹə ˈhɑnd ‖ fɹɑm ˈʃʏtʊm ɑnd ˈʃæðʊm | mɪd ðæs ˈstɑːnəs ˌstrɛŋɡðə]
“The staff in my hand shall protect me from shootings* and criminals with the strength of a stone.”

*shootings = referring to a bow

It's a spell composed in alliterative verse.
I think I overdid it... Yep, I overdid it.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 17 Feb 2017 19:58
by Iyionaku
I did a temporal change in Caelians orthography (temporal means, I let it for a week or so and then decide if I'll keep it)

Normally y/j + i is impossible because the former is depalatalized and is therefore not written. However, wy is a letter that is not a palatal sound [ʋ]. I therefore decided that the <y> is retained as an exception, and the i is implied with an acute accent.

So old wyildaz (he plays) -> wýldaz

I've been working at Caelian for two and a half years now and this is the very first time I stumbled about it; if it's so rare it might not be worth another diacritic. But maybe I will exceed this principle to all y-palatals.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 17 Feb 2017 20:35
by alynnidalar
Egerius wrote:Sċieldan mé sċẹal stæf in mínre hand / fram sċytum and sċẹaðum mid þæs stánes strengðe.
[ˈʃɪʏ̯ɫdɑn meː ˈʃæl | ˈstæf ɪn ˌmiːnɹə ˈhɑnd ‖ fɹɑm ˈʃʏtʊm ɑnd ˈʃɑðʊm | mɪd ðæs ˈstɑːnəs ˌstrɛŋɡðə]
“The staff in my hand shall protect me from shootings* and criminals with the strength of a stone.”
Overdoing or not overdoing, the result is lovely and I would very much like to hear a recording of it. :P

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 18 Feb 2017 02:12
by Void
Decided to finally try and make a language family. Made some basic Proto-grammar and some sound changes into two ("attested") old languages of a branch. Stole a bunch of sound changes from Iranian, though.

*ɲcʷix "tail" > *ərtʃux > arʃux, ərəsux

*ɟusl "snow" > *dʒusər > duhar, zusər

*maʕs’u "sand" > *ma:sʰu > ma:h, ma:su

*moħɲa "sister" > *ma:xna > ma:ʃna, ma:ŋxa

*s’eħja "hunter" > sʰa:xja > tsa:ʃa, sa:ŋxa

*ɟawt’ja ʃixʷidi gestotas ktatrʲam "the priest wrote the king a letter" > *dʒawtʃʰa ʃixudi gestotas ksatram > duʃa ʃixud dʒestas xʃatsam; zautʃa ʃxud dʒeʃtas xʃaθram

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 18 Feb 2017 23:25
by Iyionaku
I completely revised Caelian's conjugation system and added some crazy (but always plausible) assimilation rules.

Below is a revised verb table of the verb *b-rn-j (to go). Grey forms are only used in writing, while black forms are written and spoken. (Due to the complexity, foreign students of Caelian only learn those forms two years later than the rest.)


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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 19 Feb 2017 00:05
by loglorn
What are the those CL? Seems to be number but i can't tell what it is.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 19 Feb 2017 00:16
by Adarain
I don't really see how those forms are all that complex. The system is incredibly regular, with the first vowel corresponding to the subject and the second to the object.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 19 Feb 2017 08:55
by Iyionaku
loglorn wrote:What are the those CL? Seems to be number but i can't tell what it is.
Should be COL. Thanks for asking.
Adarain wrote:I don't really see how those forms are all that complex. The system is incredibly regular, with the first vowel corresponding to the subject and the second to the object.
Indeed it is, and you can tell the right form relatively fast. This was what I actually changed, but you possible cannot tell from a plain view on one verb. For example, nVn > dVn, VirC > VrC and Vij > Vi, what yields as 1COLIN>2COL burdënäj instead of the regularly expected *buirnënäij (në is a - maybe redundant - infix for COL>COL). Out of this form, a non-experienced speaker might get problems to guess the right root: *b-rn-j.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 19 Feb 2017 22:02
by WeepingElf
Why do you use an intransitive verb to demonstrate a transitive paradigm?

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 19 Feb 2017 22:18
by Imralu
WeepingElf wrote:Why do you use an intransitive verb to demonstrate a transitive paradigm?
I was wondering too. I assume it's actually a transitive verb meaning "go to", but if so, that should really be explained. In Australian English "to go someone" means either to have sex with them or to fight them ... maybe only in the conditional, like "I'd go 'im."

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 19 Feb 2017 22:59
by loglorn
Imralu wrote:
WeepingElf wrote:Why do you use an intransitive verb to demonstrate a transitive paradigm?
I was wondering too. I assume it's actually a transitive verb meaning "go to", but if so, that should really be explained. In Australian English "to go someone" means either to have sex with them or to fight them ... maybe only in the conditional, like "I'd go 'im."
Curious polysemy though.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 09:05
by Iyionaku
Imralu wrote:
WeepingElf wrote:Why do you use an intransitive verb to demonstrate a transitive paradigm?
I was wondering too. I assume it's actually a transitive verb meaning "go to", but if so, that should really be explained. In Australian English "to go someone" means either to have sex with them or to fight them ... maybe only in the conditional, like "I'd go 'im."
Nah, verbs are always conjugated after one object, if there is one. So if there is no accusative object (because the verb is intransitive), it can be flected after another case, like allative ("I come to you"), illative ("I come into the house") etc. Sorry, should have explained that directly.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 09:12
by Ahzoh
Vrkhazhians now have four types of weapons used by soldiers and guards:
Spoiler:
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 22:05
by Omzinesý
I gave thought to Vtayn evidentials/perspectives, again.

kol-i
understand-PRS
'understands'

kol-d-r-i
understand-Ø-EGO-PRS
'understands (and I know it because I'm the authority of his understanding'

kol-d-l-i
understand-Ø-SENSORY-PRS
'understands (I saw it)'

The evidential/perspective markers are not "obligatory" but they are used to start a new discourse with maybe new kinds of evidential authorities.

Reportative (second hand knowledge) is an auxiliary. At least I don't have a good morpheme for the slot.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 21 Feb 2017 21:09
by Iyionaku
:con: Yélian

I added prepositional pronouns that can appear if there is an inanimate object with a preposition. Without a preposition the inverse voice would have been used. The prepositional pronouns follow the pattern preposition + demonstrative pronoun "vat" (if the preposition ends on a consonant, <v> ist elided).

fecun + vat -> fécunat (with it)
can + vat -> canat (for it)
pun + vat -> puvat (in it)
cu + vat -> cuvat (at it)

If this occurs, the prepositional pronoun always precedes the clause. Example:

Fécunat cimegpinat.
Fecun-vat ci-meg-pin-at
with=DEM NEG-PERM-play-JUS.3SG
He must not play with it.