Agyonnar:
A: Del bir yura?
B: Ez! Manta zen?
C: Va! Dayone amoz!
(Assuming the lady in Question is an Agyon. A human lady is an "azo.")
A: this INT see?
B: No! what is?
C: Yes! Lady lewd!
My pronouns are <xe> [ziː] / <xym> [zɪm] / <xys> [zɪz]
Micamo wrote: Agyonnar:
A: Del bir yura?
B: Ez! Manta zen?
C: Va! Dayone amoz!
(Assuming the lady in Question is an Agyon. A human lady is an "azo.")
A: this INT see?
B: No! what is?
C: Yes! Lady lewd!
Micamo wrote: Agyonnar:
A: Del bir yura?
B: Ez! Manta zen?
C: Va! Dayone amoz!
(Assuming the lady in Question is an Agyon. A human lady is an "azo.")
A: this INT see?
B: No! what is?
C: Yes! Lady lewd!
lol. Not the lewd lady!
The Agyon hold absurdly high standards for female modesty. Remember they're a species that only has sex about once per decade, so a lady appearing naked anywhere where she can be seen is considered kinda slutty. So "lewd" here is a fitting colloquial translation if not a literal one.
My pronouns are <xe> [ziː] / <xym> [zɪm] / <xys> [zɪz]
Micamo wrote:The Agyon hold absurdly high standards for female modesty. Remember they're a species that only has sex about once per decade, so a lady appearing naked anywhere where she can be seen is considered kinda slutty. So "lewd" here is a fitting colloquial translation if not a literal one.
Indeed. I figured as much, it is just funny to me. Cultural differences are fun.
This dialogue is actually based on an Inyauk myth. The gist is pretty much one of the goddesses comes down to earth, runs around naked, has sex with some guys, kills them, then tells the other people they're nothing and then leaves. So yeah, not really a big deal to them.
* Ríhannen has no words for "yes" and "no", so the verb is repeated instead. Since verbs can be very long, they are often shortened by cutting out unnecessary information. For example, the resultative suffix -si- was omitted in the answers, though it is present in the question.
Maximillian wrote:* Ríhannen has no words for "yes" and "no", so the verb is repeated instead. Since verbs can be very long, they are often shortened by cutting out unnecessary information. For example, the resultative suffix -si- was omitted in the answers, though it is present in the question.
Intriguing. Is this attested in any natlang?
Is it possible that a speaker of Ríhannen might substitute '(it is) true' or '(it is) false' instead of repeating the verb?
Maximillian wrote:* Ríhannen has no words for "yes" and "no", so the verb is repeated instead. Since verbs can be very long, they are often shortened by cutting out unnecessary information. For example, the resultative suffix -si- was omitted in the answers, though it is present in the question.
Intriguing. Is this attested in any natlang?
The Celtic languages do this. In fact, the practice of answering a question with "I do", "It is", "She may", "We don't", "He can't", "They are", etc. was introduced into America by Irish immigrants.
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 88,000 words and counting
At least according to the article on echo answers on wikipedia, Finnish answers using the main verb of the question rather than some auxiliary:
A: "Tuletteko kaupungista?" ("Are you coming from town?" - come-2pl-INTER town-ELAT)
B: "Tulemme" ("we are coming" - come-1pl)
Although it does say that negatives, following the same pattern, can be reduced down to the negative auxiliary, e.g.:
A: "Tunnetteko herra Lehdon?" ("Do you know Mr. Lehto?" - know-2pl/POL-INTER mister Lehto-GEN)
B: "En tunne" ("I don't know" - "don't"-1s know)
B(alt.): "En" ("I don't" - "don't"-1s)
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
Ossicone wrote:Is it possible that a speaker of Ríhannen might substitute '(it is) true' or '(it is) false' instead of repeating the verb?
No. It would sound too artificial, in the standard language at least. But some dialects might use it.
Khemehekis wrote:The Celtic languages do this. In fact, the practice of answering a question with "I do", "It is", "She may", "We don't", "He can't", "They are", etc. was introduced into America by Irish immigrants.
Debatable, yet possible explanation. Although it'd be better to say "was introduced to English by Celts".
Khemehekis wrote:The Celtic languages do this. In fact, the practice of answering a question with "I do", "It is", "She may", "We don't", "He can't", "They are", etc. was introduced into America by Irish immigrants.
Debatable, yet possible explanation. Although it'd be better to say "was introduced to English by Celts".
That was what I read. It was probably in Speaking Freely, which has an American bias. According to the source, it really did come into English via the United States rather than the United Kingdom, even though there are Irish living in England (Sir Paul McCartney and John Lennon both have Irish surnames, for instance).
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 88,000 words and counting
Khemehekis wrote:The Celtic languages do this. In fact, the practice of answering a question with "I do", "It is", "She may", "We don't", "He can't", "They are", etc. was introduced into America by Irish immigrants.
Debatable, yet possible explanation. Although it'd be better to say "was introduced to English by Celts".
That was what I read. It was probably in Speaking Freely, which has an American bias. According to the source, it really did come into English via the United States rather than the United Kingdom, even though there are Irish living in England (Sir Paul McCartney and John Lennon both have Irish surnames, for instance).
This is an interesting subject. I have never thought that that other languages say yes/no much easier than Finnish.
It is really complicated to answer a negative question in Finnish.
Etkö tappanut häntä? 'Didn't you kill him?'
En./Joo. 'No/yeah'
Siis tapitko vai etkö? 'Did you kill or not?'
En./Joo. 'no/yeah'
No antaa olla. Kuollut mikä kuollut. 'Let it be. He is dead.'
Lantasi: A: Cú-oriau dàciam?
/kwoɾɪjaʊ ɖəʧæm/
Did you see that?
[Query-see.you that-f.acc?]
B: Nu, Cú-estia?
/nʊ, kwɛʃʈæ/
No! What was it?
[No, Query-be.past-f?]
C: Sie! Estia sà feminam ianàs!
/ʃɛ! ɛʃʈæ sə fɛmɪnæŋ jænəs - m becomes ŋ if the next word begins with j, g, k or ŋ/
Yes! It was a naked lady!
[Yes! Be.past.f a.f lady.acc.f barren.f]
"Why is it when you tell someone there are 4 billion stars , they believe it. But if you tell them that the paint is still wet, they have to touch it?"
Am I all that I am? Well, I am, that I am.
English:
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