Why are you hitting yourself?

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Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by Ossicone » Tue 22 Oct 2013, 18:58

How could I miss doing my favorite test sentence for so long?!

:usa: Why are you hitting yourself?

:con: Uskra: Mis satikatasa ta'i?
mis sa-tik-at-asa ta'i
Q.why 2A-give-2P-NPST hit
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by Uzhdarchios » Tue 22 Oct 2013, 19:19

:con: Mîrkšam:

Urêâkćâ ćurh shejtik?
[uɾøʔɶkˈcʷɶ cʷurx ˈsxejdik]
U-rê-âkćâ ćurh shejt-ik?
2-SGV-[IND-PRS-IPFV]strike Q.why REFL-ACC
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by Xing » Tue 22 Oct 2013, 20:30

:con: Wakeu

Tekere a ngo rei mwarui?
hit ERG 2s REFL why
/ʧeːkeːɾe aː ŋoːu̯ ɾeːi̯ mˠaɾui̯/

Tekere a ngo rei me mwea pare?
hot ERG 2s REFL ABL what cause
/ʧeːkeːɾe aː ŋoːu̯ ɾeːi̯ mʲeː mˠeːa pʲaːɾe/
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by prettydragoon » Tue 22 Oct 2013, 22:01

:con: Rireinutire

ta huno hutina yoñi orokayo:
/tɑ ˈhuno ˈhutinɑ ˈyoŋi ˈoɹoˌkɑyo/
2S.NOM ones.own self-PTV why.Q hit-PRS-Q
Why are you hitting yourself?
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by Chagen » Thu 14 Nov 2013, 19:51

:con: Heocg:

Smut dah hreotiz?
what.DAT 2SG.NOM hit.PST-REFL

The Heocg word for "why" is just the word for "what" in the Dative.
Nūdenku waga honji ma naku honyasi ne ika-ika ichamase!
female-appearance=despite boy-voice=PAT hold boy-youth=TOP very be.cute-3PL
Honyasi zō honyasi ma naidasu.
boy-youth=AGT boy-youth=PAT love.romantically-3S
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by thetha » Fri 15 Nov 2013, 03:28

:nav: Navajo
ha'át'íísh biniiyé na'adinílts'in?
ha'át'íí=sh b-niiyé ná-ád-ni-ni-l-ts'in
reason=Q 3-bc.of.it ITER-REFL-THEME-2S-CLF-hit.IMPF

CLF here marks so called 'verbal classifiers'. These usually describe the voice of a verb, we have -l- here because this verb is reflexive.

:nga: Yoruba
Kí ló dé tí o ń lù ara ẹ?
what COP=3S occur REL 2S PROG hit body 2S.POSS

:que: Cuzco Quechua
Imarayku maqakushanki?
why hit-REFL-PROG-2S.SUBJ
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by Thakowsaizmu » Fri 15 Nov 2013, 03:44

:tan: Unajipiga kwa nini?
/u.nɑ.ɗʒi.'pi.ɠɑ kʷɑ 'ni.ni/
u-na-ji-piga kwa nini
2ps-PRES-refl-hit for what
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by Pirka » Fri 15 Nov 2013, 05:16

:rus: Зачем ты себя бьёшь?
зачем ты себя бь-ёшь
why 2.SG RELF.ACC hit.IPFV-2.SG.NPT
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by Maraxxus » Fri 15 Nov 2013, 07:20

Valitasoy:
Erþi muhr ʃoq qinaʒ?
Erþi muhr=ʃoq qin-aʒ?
why REFL=2SG hit-2SG

[ɛrˈði ˈmuh̥rsɔqːinɑz]
Why are you hitting yourself?
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by Serena » Fri 15 Nov 2013, 14:31

:con: [Gadīl]

MW KHNH TH DWL TH SN?
Mū kāna tā dawĕl tă san?
What Thing PN.2s Hit-PRES PN.2s For
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by Dormouse559 » Fri 15 Nov 2013, 22:29

:con: Untitled:

Uph uj paarnatheel?
[ˈupʰ uj ˈpaːrnaˌtʰɛːl]
2SG REFL hit-DEF-about-reason

Uph uj paarnatheel lam uph keei.
[ˈupʰ uj ˈpaːrnaˌtʰɛːl lam ˈupʰ ˈkɛːi̯]
2SG REFL hit-DEF-about-reason NEC 2SG speak

The first version is an idiomatic shortening of the second. A literal translation of the second version would be, "You must speak about your hitting yourself, regarding the reason."
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by DesEsseintes » Sat 16 Nov 2013, 10:52

:con: Nınuıntı:

Puntaımıına ıamuut?
[pʊndemɪnɐ jɐmuːt̚]
punta-ımı=ına ıa-muut
hit-REFL=2s to-what
Why are you hitting yourself?/What are you hitting yourself for?
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by Imralu » Mon 18 Nov 2013, 00:56

:con: Ahu:

Uá i tsahais u tiz?
uá i tsa-a-iso u ti-za
1s PRED strike.AG-OBL-self ADV because.of-what
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific, AG = agent, E = entity (person, animal, thing)
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by Lao Kou » Thu 21 Nov 2013, 13:20

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Öçek las chelöi nzo hödvagakh?
[øˈɕɛk las tʃɛˈløj nˈzo høˈdvagax]
2SG-NOM AUX.PRES.REFL why on.earth-ADV hit-INTERR
Why are you hitting yourself?

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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by Creyeditor » Thu 21 Nov 2013, 14:32

:deu: German
Warum haust du dich (selber)?
warum hau-st du dich (selber)
why hit-2.SG.PRS.IND 2.SG.NOM 2.SG.ACC (REFL)

Why are you hitting yourself?

Warum schlägst du dich (selbst)?
warum schag/i-st du dich (selbst)
why beat/-2.SG.PRS.IND 2.SG.NOM 2.SG.ACC (REFL)

Why are you hitting yourself?
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by Dormouse559 » Thu 21 Nov 2013, 18:15

It needs to be more Bible-y. [:P] How about this: "And the angel said unto him, Stop hitting thyself! But he could not stop, for he was hitting him with his own hands."
Ah, ambiguous pronoun usage. Gotta love it.
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by Omzinesý » Thu 21 Nov 2013, 21:34

A new Vtain translation, at last!

Why are you hitting yourself?

Ham päkodäni stain?
ham p<ä>kod-än-i stain
PRON.SG2.INTR <ANTIP>hit-PASS-PRS why

INTR - The intranstitive is the case of intransitive subject in Vtain.
Reflexive is formed by adding both antipassive and passive affixes.


The intensive stem, with the strong mutation, pkod -> pkot would mean 'to beat'.

Why are you beating yourself?

Ham päkodäni stain?
ham p<ä>kot-än-i stain
PRON.SG2.INTR <ANTIP>beat-PASS-PRS why
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by Lao Kou » Fri 22 Nov 2013, 04:56

Omzinesý wrote:Why are you hitting yourself?

Ham päkodäni stain?
ham p<ä>kod-än-i stain
PRON.SG2.INTR <ANTIP>hit-PASS-PRS why

Why are you beating yourself?

Ham päkodäni stain?
ham p<ä>kot-än-i stain
PRON.SG2.INTR <ANTIP>beat-PASS-PRS why
Is there a difference between "hitting" and "beating" in the surface utterance?
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by Omzinesý » Fri 22 Nov 2013, 16:02

Lao Kou wrote:
Omzinesý wrote:Why are you hitting yourself?

Ham päkodäni stain?
ham p<ä>kod-än-i stain
PRON.SG2.INTR <ANTIP>hit-PASS-PRS why

Why are you beating yourself?

Ham päkodäni stain?
ham p<ä>kot-än-i stain
PRON.SG2.INTR <ANTIP>beat-PASS-PRS why
Is there a difference between "hitting" and "beating" in the surface utterance?
Hupsanssaa, it was quite late when I wrote that.
The strong grade should appear before the TAM-suffix.

Ham päkodänti stain?
ham p<ä>kod-än-STRG-i stain
PRON.SG2.INTR <ANTIP>hit-PASS-INTENS-PRS why

INTENS - intensive stem
STRG - strong grade
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Post by Bagliun Edar » Sat 15 Feb 2014, 16:43

:usa: Why are you hitting yourself?

:con: Obulamga
Ayienjoimilemdi?
[ˈaʎiɛnʒɔimilˌɛmdi]
a-yien-jo-imil-emdi
PROG-hit-IND.POL-2SG.REFL-why

I used to have a grammatical interrogative mood. I dropped it. Now questions are marked by clitics.
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