Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread [2011–2018]

[opipik]

Two related languages:

/t t̠ k̟ʲᵸ k̟ᶣ k kʷ ʡ ʡᶣ ʔ/
/pɸ ʦ̠ᵸ ⁿk̟x̟ᵸʲ k̟x̟ᵸᶣ kxᵸʲ ʔh ʔɦʲ/
/ɾ̠ ɺ ɺʰ ɺ̠ ɺ̠ʰ/
/ɸ β s z çᵸ ʝᵸ ʜ ʜʷ ʢ ʢʷ h̃ᶣ/
/j w ɥ ɥᵸ l lᵸ l̠ l̠ᵸ/

/i y e ø ə ɵ ɑ u/
/ḭ ə̰/

---

/t cˤ k ʡ ʔ ʔʲ/
/n nˤ nᵸ/
/βᵸ ɬ ɮᵸ ɕᵸ ʝᵸ ʜ ʜʲ ʢ ʢʲ ʔh/
/tɬᵸ kxᵸʲ kʕʲ/
/ɺ ɺᵸ/

/i ɪ ɘ ɜ ʌ ɑ/

[zyma]

Iiłò'ełìt tentative Phonology:
/t t' k k' kʷ kʷ' q ʔ/ <t t' k k' kw kw' q '>
/m n/ <m n>
/s ʃ X ʁ h/ <s š x g h>
/ts'/ <c'>
/ɬ/ <ł>
/j w/ <y w>

/i i: u u: o o: e e: a a:/ <i ii u uu o oo e ee a aa>

/˧ ˨˩~˩/ <a à>

Cool, I particularly like the usage of <g> for /ʁ/.

Phonology of the tentatively named Mturj:
/m n ŋ/ <m n ŋ>
/p t k ʔ/ <p t k q>
/f θ s ʃ x h/ <f þ s š x h>
/l j/ <l j>
/ɬ ʟ̝̊/ <ḷ ĺ>
/p͡f t͡θ t͡ɬ t͡s t͡ʃ k͡ʟ̝̊ k͡x/ <pf tþ tḷ ts tš kĺ kx>
/r ʀ/ <r ř>

/i y u/ <i y u>
/e̞ o̞/ <e o>
/æ ɐ ɑ ɒ/ <æ ä a å>

(C)CVC(C) syllables, where the cluster's second consonant must be further back than the first. (rř allowed, *řr not) No more than two consonants may be in sequence. (In case of compound words, the outermost consonant(s) are dropped.)

ftarh þĺåŋq tþærřykĺ
pfruxř + blemtḷ = *pfruxřblemtḷ => *pfruxlemtḷ => pfrulxemtḷ

Mayyybe an isolating, VSO lang?

As I believe I've said elsewhere, I quite like this! While it's true that having two mandatory consonants per syllable is strange, you don't have to get rid of it if you like it/don't want to get rid of it.

You also don't have to change the vowels (or consonants) if you don't want to, no matter how relatively uncommon certain kinds of inventories may be.

If you want more "typical" vowels, though, you could shift two of the low vowels slightly, transcribing what are now /æ ɒ/ as /ɛ ɔ/. Maybe also transcribe /e̞ o̞/ as /e o/, both for convenience, and since the latter two are technically more distinct from /ɛ ɔ/? You could additionally make /ɐ/ a schwa if you want, and you could centralize /y/, yielding:

/i ʉ u/ <i y u>
/e o/ <e o>
/ə/ <ä>
/ɛ ɔ/ <æ å>
/ɑ/ <a>

You could also say that homorganic clusters of stops and fricatives are realized as affricates if you want to cut back on the number of those in your inventory.

But again, if you ask me, you don't have to change anything if you don't want to.

Two related languages:

/t t̠ k̟ʲᵸ k̟ᶣ k kʷ ʡ ʡᶣ ʔ/
/pɸ ʦ̠ᵸ ⁿk̟x̟ᵸʲ k̟x̟ᵸᶣ kxᵸʲ ʔh ʔɦʲ/
/ɾ̠ ɺ ɺʰ ɺ̠ ɺ̠ʰ/
/ɸ β s z çᵸ ʝᵸ ʜ ʜʷ ʢ ʢʷ h̃ᶣ/
/j w ɥ ɥᵸ l lᵸ l̠ l̠ᵸ/

/i y e ø ə ɵ ɑ u/
/ḭ ə̰/

---

/t cˤ k ʡ ʔ ʔʲ/
/n nˤ nᵸ/
/βᵸ ɬ ɮᵸ ɕᵸ ʝᵸ ʜ ʜʲ ʢ ʢʲ ʔh/
/tɬᵸ kxᵸʲ kʕʲ/
/ɺ ɺᵸ/

/i ɪ ɘ ɜ ʌ ɑ/

Very interestingly strange, so to speak! How are they related to one another, if you don't mind my asking?

[Shemtov]

Iiłò'ełìt tentative Phonology:
/t t' k k' kʷ kʷ' q ʔ/ <t t' k k' kw kw' q '>
/m n/ <m n>
/s ʃ X ʁ h/ <s š x g h>
/ts'/ <c'>
/ɬ/ <ł>
/j w/ <y w>

/i i: u u: o o: e e: a a:/ <i ii u uu o oo e ee a aa>

/˧ ˨˩~˩/ <a à>

Cool, I particularly like the usage of <g> for /ʁ/.

Thanks.
BTW, I forget to mention that tone is only phonemic after /t' s ɬ/.
This also is a bogolang of Biblical Hebrew on Na-Dene. Basically the Ten Tribes (specifically Issachar and Zebulon [Iiłałòkoł and Sàkw'uułùn] made it to northwestern Canada.

[Brahmanseau]

/t t̠ k̟ʲᵸ k̟ᶣ k kʷ ʡ ʡᶣ ʔ/
/pɸ ʦ̠ᵸ ⁿk̟x̟ᵸʲ k̟x̟ᵸᶣ kxᵸʲ ʔh ʔɦʲ/
/ɾ̠ ɺ ɺʰ ɺ̠ ɺ̠ʰ/
/ɸ β s z çᵸ ʝᵸ ʜ ʜʷ ʢ ʢʷ h̃ᶣ/
/j w ɥ ɥᵸ l lᵸ l̠ l̠ᵸ/

/i y e ø ə ɵ ɑ u/
/ḭ ə̰/

First off, holy crap!

Second, my project: Snafoo (Ssnabhu)!

/m mʷ n ŋ/ <m mo n nn>
/p pʷ b t tʷ d dʷ k kʷ g gʷ ʔ/ <p po b t to d do c co g go h>
/f v vʷ θ θʷ ð s ʃ ʃʷ ʒ ʒʷ x xʷ ɣ/ <bh f fo s so lh ss sc sco sh sho gh gho r>
/t͡s t͡sʷ t͡ʃ/ <st sto ch>
/l w/ <l o>

/i: ɯ:/ <ì ù>
/ɪ ʊ/ <i u>
/ɛ ʌ/ <e a>
/æ: ɑ:/ <è à>
/aɪ/ <ea>

(C)*(C)V(C)**
(C)*CV:

*Word initial clusters:
[fn ft fk]
[sm sp sk]
[ʃm ʃn ʃp ʃt ʃk]
[pl bl fl vl ʃl ʒl kl gl]
**Coda consonants:
[p b f v θ ð t͡s ʃ ʒ t͡ʃ k g x ɣ ʔ]

[ŋ]: V_
[ʔ]: V_; V_V*
> [z]: V_V
[x] > [h]: _V
[xʷ] > [ʍ]: _V
[ɣ] > [ʁ]: C_V**
[ɯ:] > [ɔ]: Cʷ_

*epenthetic
**sometimes V_V

[zyma]

Second, my project: Snafoo (Ssnabhu)!

/m mʷ n ŋ/ <m mo n nn>
/p pʷ b t tʷ d dʷ k kʷ g gʷ ʔ/ <p po b t to d do c co g go h>
/f v vʷ θ θʷ ð s ʃ ʃʷ ʒ ʒʷ x xʷ ɣ/ <bh f fo s so lh ss sc sco sh sho gh gho r>
/t͡s t͡sʷ t͡ʃ/ <st sto ch>
/l w/ <l o>

/i: ɯ:/ <ì ù>
/ɪ ʊ/ <i u>
/ɛ ʌ/ <e a>
/æ: ɑ:/ <è à>
/aɪ/ <ea>

(C)*(C)V(C)**
(C)*CV:

*Word initial clusters are limited to [s ʃ] + C
**Coda consonants are limited to [m ŋ p b f v θ ð t͡s ʃ ʒ t͡ʃ k g x ɣ ʔ]

[ŋ]: V_
[ʔ]: V_; V_V*
> [z]: V_V
[x] > [h]: _V
[xʷ] > [ʍ]: _V
[ɣ] > [ʁ]: C_V
[ɯ:] > [ɔ]: CʷV

*epenthetic

That's a nice, fun name for a language! I really like your romanization choices, and the inventory/phonology in general. Hopefully we get to see more of the language in the future!

[Man in Space]

Based off a mix of something from gleb and Iroquoian:

/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ñ g>
/p t tʃ k ʔ/ <p t c k ʔ>
/f~v s~ɾ ʃ~ʒ/ <f s~r j>
/ɬ~l/ <l>
/w/ <w>

/u o õ a ã e ẽ i/ <u o õ a ã e ẽ i>

Syllable structure: (C)V(N)(C). Fricatives have voiced allophones between vowels, but only [ɾ] is distinguished in writing.

[HoskhMatriarch]

Two related languages:

/t t̠ k̟ʲᵸ k̟ᶣ k kʷ ʡ ʡᶣ ʔ/
/pɸ ʦ̠ᵸ ⁿk̟x̟ᵸʲ k̟x̟ᵸᶣ kxᵸʲ ʔh ʔɦʲ/
/ɾ̠ ɺ ɺʰ ɺ̠ ɺ̠ʰ/
/ɸ β s z çᵸ ʝᵸ ʜ ʜʷ ʢ ʢʷ h̃ᶣ/
/j w ɥ ɥᵸ l lᵸ l̠ l̠ᵸ/

/i y e ø ə ɵ ɑ u/
/ḭ ə̰/

---

/t cˤ k ʡ ʔ ʔʲ/
/n nˤ nᵸ/
/βᵸ ɬ ɮᵸ ɕᵸ ʝᵸ ʜ ʜʲ ʢ ʢʲ ʔh/
/tɬᵸ kxᵸʲ kʕʲ/
/ɺ ɺᵸ/

/i ɪ ɘ ɜ ʌ ɑ/

These don't look particularly like something that one would see somewhere, and the inventories are not even that big...

[druneragarsh]

As I believe I've said elsewhere, I quite like this! While it's true that having two mandatory consonants per syllable is strange, you don't have to get rid of it if you like it/don't want to get rid of it.

You also don't have to change the vowels (or consonants) if you don't want to, no matter how relatively uncommon certain kinds of inventories may be.

If you want more "typical" vowels, though, you could shift two of the low vowels slightly, transcribing what are now /æ ɒ/ as /ɛ ɔ/. Maybe also transcribe /e̞ o̞/ as /e o/, both for convenience, and since the latter two are technically more distinct from /ɛ ɔ/? You could additionally make /ɐ/ a schwa if you want, and you could centralize /y/, yielding:

/i ʉ u/ <i y u>
/e o/ <e o>
/ə/ <ä>
/ɛ ɔ/ <æ å>
/ɑ/ <a>

You could also say that homorganic clusters of stops and fricatives are realized as affricates if you want to cut back on the number of those in your inventory.

But again, if you ask me, you don't have to change anything if you don't want to.

I don't like having /e o/ constrast with /ɛ ɔ/, but that's just because I can't reliably articulate the difference. If I'll use it for diachronics, though, that sounds like a nice starting point. /ɐ/ will change to something, most likely a schwa. Hmm, maybe rounding-based vowel harmony? I think I'll sit on the vowels a bit more. (*squish* Now they're all true mid! )

Having stop+homorganic fricative turn into an affricative is a good idea that fits my initial concept of the lang perfectly. Thanks! *writes note*

[zyma]

Based off a mix of something from gleb and Iroquoian:

/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ñ g>
/p t tʃ k ʔ/ <p t c k ʔ>
/f~v s~ɾ ʃ~ʒ/ <f s~r j>
/ɬ~l/ <l>
/w/ <w>

/u o õ a ã e ẽ i/ <u o õ a ã e ẽ i>

Syllable structure: (C)V(N)(C). Fricatives have voiced allophones between vowels, but only [ɾ] is distinguished in writing.

Very well done all around! Probably what stood out to me the most about this, though, was how I could definitely still feel the Iroquoian influence, despite the presence of labials.

[All4Ɇn]

Some nice Germanic phonologies I found hidden amongst my files on Islogian:

Spoiler:

/m n~n̥ ŋ/ <m n ng>
/p b t d k g ʔ/ <p b t d k/q g h>
/ts~dz tʃ dʒ/ <z c dj/dg>
/f v θ ð s z ʃ~ʒ ç~x ɣ h~ʰ/ <f/v w þ ð s/ß/ſ s/x sch ch gh h>
/j w~ʍ/ <j/g ƿ>
/r̥~r~ʀ/ <r>
/l̥~l~ł/ <l>

/i y u/ <í y u>
/ɪ ʏ/ <i ü>
/e ø o/ <é ö ó>
/ə/ <ë>
/ɛ œ ɔ/ <e œ o>
/æ ɐ ɐː/ <æ á áa>
/a ɑ ɑː ɒ/ <ä a aa å>



/m mˀ n nˀ ɲ ŋ~ŋˀ/ <m mb n nd nj ng>
/p~b pʰ t~ɹ tʰ ʈ~tˀ c cʰ k~ŋɣ kʰ/ <b p d t dt gj kj g k>
/t͡ɕ~d͡ʑ t͡ɕʰ/ <dj tj>
/s~z ɕ~ʑ/ <s sj>
/f vʷ~fʷ ç~ʝ h/ <f v hj h>
/ʋ j ʁ/ <hv j r>
/l lˀ ʎ/ <l ld lj>

Short vowels:
/ɪ ʏ ʊ/ <i y u>
/ɛ œ ʌ~ɔ/ <e ø å>
/æ/ <æ>
/ä ɒ/ <a o>

Long vowels:
/iː yː uː/ <i y u>
/eː øː~œː oː/ <e ø o>
/ɛː ɔː/ <æ å>
/ɑː/ <a>



/m n~ɳ ŋ/ <m n ng>
/pʰ b tʰ~ʈʰ d~ɖ kʰ g/ <p b t d k g>
/s ʂ ɕ/ <s skj~sj tj>
/f v θ~ð h/ <f v ð h>
/ɻ j ɥ/ <r j jy/
/l̥ l/ <sl l>

Loan words:
/kʰ~s kʰ kʰf kʰs/ <c q qu x>
/s/ <z>
/v/ <w>

Long vowels:
/iː yː ɨː ʉː uː/ <i y ï ü u>
/eː øː oː/ <e ö o>
/ɛː œː ɔː/ <ä ë å>
/ɐː/ <ea>
/ɑː/ <a>

Short vowels:
/ɪ ʏ ʊ/ <i y u>
/ɘ ɵ/ <ï ü>
/ɛ œ ɔ/ <e ö o>
/ə/ <ë>
/æ ɐ/ <ä ea>
/ä ɒ/ <a å>

These all look really awesome! Do you have any further plans or backstories for them, perhaps somewhat like you have for Islogian?

Thanks . Not yet but when I have time I'm planning on either picking my favorite and working with it or trying to get all of them together into one really good one to work on. I really like the idea of making a conlang with stød though.

[Shemtov]

Something completely insane:
/p pʰ ʰp b bʱ ɓ t tʰ ʰt t' d dʱ ɗ k kʰ ʰk k' g gʱ ʔ ʔʰ/
/m m̥ m̥ʰ ʰm̥ n n̥ n̥ʰ ʰn̥ ŋ ŋ̊ ŋ̊ʰ ʰŋ̊/
/ts tsʰ ts' dz t͡ʃ t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃ' d͡ʒ/
/f fʰ ʰf v vʱ s sʰ s' ʰs z zʱ x x' xʰ ʰx ɣ ɣʱ h ɦ/
/ɬ ʰɬ ɬʰ ɬ' tɬ tɬ' tɬʰ/
/r rʱ r̥ r̥ʰ/
/j w/


/i y ɯ u/
/ɪ ʏ ɪ̠̈ ʊ/
/e ø ɤ o/
/ə ə̃/
/ɛ œ ʌ ɔ/
/a ɑ/

/˥ ˧ ˩ ˧˥ ˧˩ ˩˧ ˥˧ ˥˦˥ ˦˥˦ ˩˧˩ ˧˩˧/

[zyma]

Thanks . Not yet but when I have time I'm planning on either picking my favorite and working with it or trying to get all of them together into one really good one to work on. I really like the idea of making a conlang with stød though.

Cool! Good luck on whichever path you choose to go down with these.

Something completely insane:
/p pʰ ʰp b bʱ ɓ t tʰ ʰt t' d dʱ ɗ k kʰ ʰk k' g gʱ ʔ ʔʰ/
/m m̥ m̥ʰ ʰm̥ n n̥ n̥ʰ ʰn̥ ŋ ŋ̊ ŋ̊ʰ ʰŋ̊/
/ts tsʰ ts' dz t͡ʃ t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃ' d͡ʒ/
/f fʰ ʰf v vʱ s sʰ s' ʰs z zʱ x x' xʰ ʰx ɣ ɣʱ h ɦ/
/ɬ ʰɬ ɬʰ ɬ' tɬ tɬ' tɬʰ/
/r rʱ r̥ r̥ʰ/
/j w/


/i y ɯ u/
/ɪ ʏ ɪ̠̈ ʊ/
/e ø ɤ o/
/ə ə̃/
/ɛ œ ʌ ɔ/
/a ɑ/

/˥ ˧ ˩ ˧˥ ˧˩ ˩˧ ˥˧ ˥˦˥ ˦˥˦ ˩˧˩ ˧˩˧/

Interesting; do you have any ideas at the moment regarding phonotactics? Or would setting down phonotactic restrictions like that contradict the intended "complete insanity"?

[DesEsseintes]

Something I personally find very cute. It's a phonology that allows me to play with all kinds of things I don't permit myself in Hííenununóóoþa. Another reason for this is that at the moment I just can't get enough of playing with glottal stops.

/n/ n
/t t͡s t͡ɬ (t͡ʃ) k ʔ/ t ts tł ch k ’
/t’ t͡s’ t͡ɬ’ (t͡ʃ’) k’/ t’ ts’ tł’ ch’ k’
/s ɬ (ʃ) x h/ s ł sh x h
/j w ɰ/ y w g

/a e i o u/ a e ı o u
/eɪ̯ oʊ̯/ eı ou
+ tone and length

Notes:
- /t͡ʃ’ t͡ʃ ʃ/ are allophones of /k’ k x/ before front vowels or in coda after a front vowel; palatalisation is blocked if the preceding vowel is any of /o oː oʊ̯ uː/ (NB: but not /u/); /t͡ʃ ʃ/ are marginally phonemic though, as both can occur word-finally after /a/
- the exact vowel qualities and allophones remain to be worked out

Ponderables:
- I might add /t͡n t͡n’/ tn tn’; actually, I almost certainly will
- the non-glottal fricatives will most likely have voiced allophones intervocalically
- a part of me wants to add aspirated stops and affricates, but I probably won't

Sample:
Húúnt’a
Osééyełche’e
Nóúnut’a
Wíłwık’a
Ék’e’ooxút
Áágesht’o

Maybe I'll name it Tnı’ín or similar.

[cedh]

Maybe I'll name it Tnı’ín or similar.

Beautiful, once again! :-)

[All4Ɇn]

Couldn't resist myself and got around to the final version of the Germanic idea earlier than I planned on:

/m̥ m mˀ n̥ n nˀ ɲ ŋ ŋˀ ʔ/ <sm m mb sn n nd nj ng ng h>
/p~b pʰ t~ɖ tˀ tʰ ʈˀ~ɖˀ k~ŋɣ kʰ/ <b p d dt t rt g k>
/ʈ͡ʂ~ɖ͡ʐ ʈ͡ʂʰ t͡ɕ~d͡ʑ t͡ɕʰ/ <rdsj~rdj rtsj~rtj dsj~dj tsj~tj>
/s ʂ ɕ/ <s~ß~z rs~rz~rsj sj>
/f v θ~ð ɣ h/ <f v~w þ~ð gh h~ħ>
/j / <j~g>
/ɾ̥~ʀ̥~r̥ ɾ~ʀ~r ɾˀ~ʀˀ~rˀ/ <sr r rd>
/l̥ l~lˠ lˀ ʎ/ <sl l ld lj>

Long vowels (before one consonant, a vowel, or word finally):
/iː yː ʉː uː/ <i ü y u>
/eː øː oː/ <e ö o>
/ɛː œː ɔː/ <ä e å>
/ɐː/ <ea>
/ɑː/ <a>

Long vowels (before multiple consonants):
/iː yː ʉː uː/ <í ü ý ú>
/eː øː oː/ <é ö ó>
/ɛː œː ɔː/ <ä ë å>
/ɐː/ <éa>
/ɑː/ <á>

Short vowels (before multiple consonants):
/ɪ ʏ ʊ/ <i ü u>
/ɵ/ <y>
/ɛ œ ɔ/ <e ö o>
/ə/ <e>
/æ ɐ/ <ä ea>
/ä ɒ/ <a å>

/b ɖ ɖˀ ŋɣ ɖ͡ʐ d͡ʑ ð/ are the intervocalic forms of /p t ʈˀ k ʈ͡ʂ t͡ɕ θ/
<ng> is either /ŋ/ or /ŋˀ/ depending on the context
<h> is /ʔ/ non word-initially
<ħ> is used for /h/ non-word initially
<ß> is used to show a long vowel before /s/ and one or more consonants or to show a long <ä å ö ü> before /s/
<s> and <z> are both /s/ and what words use each must be memorized
<w> is used instead of <vv>
<g> before <i í e é ë> is sometimes /j/
/ə œː/ are the unstressed versions of /eː ɛ/

A Á Ä Å B C D Ð E É Ë F G H Ħ I Í J K L M N O Ó Ö P Q R S T U Ú Ü V W X Y Ý Þ Z ß

[Birdlang]

Something completely insane:
/p pʰ ʰp b bʱ ɓ t tʰ ʰt t' d dʱ ɗ k kʰ ʰk k' g gʱ ʔ ʔʰ/
/m m̥ m̥ʰ ʰm̥ n n̥ n̥ʰ ʰn̥ ŋ ŋ̊ ŋ̊ʰ ʰŋ̊/
/ts tsʰ ts' dz t͡ʃ t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃ' d͡ʒ/
/f fʰ ʰf v vʱ s sʰ s' ʰs z zʱ x x' xʰ ʰx ɣ ɣʱ h ɦ/
/ɬ ʰɬ ɬʰ ɬ' tɬ tɬ' tɬʰ/
/r rʱ r̥ r̥ʰ/
/j w/


/i y ɯ u/
/ɪ ʏ ɪ̠̈ ʊ/
/e ø ɤ o/
/ə ə̃/
/ɛ œ ʌ ɔ/
/a ɑ/

/˥ ˧ ˩ ˧˥ ˧˩ ˩˧ ˥˧ ˥˦˥ ˦˥˦ ˩˧˩ ˧˩˧/

How will you romanize this? Especially the vowels.

[druneragarsh]

Something completely insane:
/p pʰ ʰp b bʱ ɓ t tʰ ʰt t' d dʱ ɗ k kʰ ʰk k' g gʱ ʔ ʔʰ/
/m m̥ m̥ʰ ʰm̥ n n̥ n̥ʰ ʰn̥ ŋ ŋ̊ ŋ̊ʰ ʰŋ̊/
/ts tsʰ ts' dz t͡ʃ t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃ' d͡ʒ/
/f fʰ ʰf v vʱ s sʰ s' ʰs z zʱ x x' xʰ ʰx ɣ ɣʱ h ɦ/
/ɬ ʰɬ ɬʰ ɬ' tɬ tɬ' tɬʰ/
/r rʱ r̥ r̥ʰ/
/j w/


/i y ɯ u/
/ɪ ʏ ɪ̠̈ ʊ/
/e ø ɤ o/
/ə ə̃/
/ɛ œ ʌ ɔ/
/a ɑ/

/˥ ˧ ˩ ˧˥ ˧˩ ˩˧ ˥˧ ˥˦˥ ˦˥˦ ˩˧˩ ˧˩˧/

My suggestions:
With combining diacritics:
/i y ɯ u/ <i y i̠ u>
/ɪ ʏ ɪ̠̈ ʊ/ <i̞ y̞ i̱̞ u̞>
/e ø ɤ o/ <e ø e̱ o>
/ə ə̃/ <ə ə̠>
/ɛ œ ʌ ɔ/ <e̞ ø̞ a̝ o̞>
/a ɑ/ <a a̱>

/˥ ˧ ˩ ˧˥ ˧˩ ˩˧ ˥˧ ˥˦˥ ˦˥˦ ˩˧˩ ˧˩˧/ <â a ǎ á à a̋ å ä ã ā ȧ> (macron, tilde)

With tones marked by numbers:
/i y ɯ u/ <í ý ı̋ ú>
/ɪ ʏ ɪ̠̈ ʊ/ <i y ı u>
/e ø ɤ o/ <e ø è o>
/ə ə̃/ <ə ə̀>
/ɛ œ ʌ ɔ/ <ě œ â ǒ>
/a ɑ/ <a à>

/˥ ˧ ˩ ˧˥ ˧˩ ˩˧ ˥˧ ˥˦˥ ˦˥˦ ˩˧˩ ˧˩˧/ <a1 a2 a3 a4 a5 a6 a7 a8 a9 a0 aQ>

[Shrdlu]

What do yall think of this,

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b[B w] t[T] k[k] q[q] '[?] 
       d[d] g[g]
n[n]
l[l]  lh[K]
h[h]  tsch[tS]
a i o u  ia

h[h] is the main fricative. It is phonemic even in CVh[h] positions. So like everywhere.

[HoskhMatriarch]

What do yall think of this,

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b[B w] t[T] k[k] q[q] '[?] 
       d[d] g[g]
n[n]
l[l]  lh[K]
h[h]  tsch[tS]
a i o u  ia

h[h] is the main fricative. It is phonemic even in CVh[h] positions. So like everywhere.

I think it's a universal that there has to be other fricatives to have [h], even if you want [h] to be the most common one.

Also, although I'm a fan of German orthography, I don't think the <tsch> is particularly necessary.

[Shrdlu]

Yeah, ok so what does the inventory remind you of?