Honestly up to you, but a good language to look at that doesn't conjugate verbs on person would be swedish. That's where i derived my inspiration for Koharteti, but my language is more of an analytic one. I don't see a problem with it but i can't say much from one sentence.Click wrote: Areyatta
As wh-movement is optional in Areyatta, there are two different ways this sentence can be translated into it. Of course, one includes wh-movement, and the other one does not.
- Keva tšıgána zen?
ke·va tšıgán·na zen
DAT·what hit·2SG REFL
Why are you hitting yourself?I haven’t decided yet whether to keep the person suffixes or not, tell me.
- Tšigána zen keva?
tšıgán·na zen ke·va
hit·2SG REFL DAT·what
Why are you hitting yourself?
Why are you hitting yourself?
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?
Xing:
Dinni xemme kaja mone?
hit 2s.REFL do what
/tinːi ʃemːe kʰat͡ʃa mone/
[ˈtinːɪ ˈʃemːɛ ˈkʰaːt͡ʃɐ ˈmoːnɛ]
Kaja mone dinni xemme?
do what hit 2s.REFL
/kʰat͡ʃa mone tinːi ʃemːe/
[ˈkʰaːt͡ʃɐ ˈmoːnɛ ˈtinːɪ ˈʃemːɛ]
Dinni xemme kaja mone?
hit 2s.REFL do what
/tinːi ʃemːe kʰat͡ʃa mone/
[ˈtinːɪ ˈʃemːɛ ˈkʰaːt͡ʃɐ ˈmoːnɛ]
Kaja mone dinni xemme?
do what hit 2s.REFL
/kʰat͡ʃa mone tinːi ʃemːe/
[ˈkʰaːt͡ʃɐ ˈmoːnɛ ˈtinːɪ ˈʃemːɛ]
Re: Why are you hitting yourself?
Czemu sam siebie bijesz?
cz-emu sam siebie bi-j-esz
what-DAT REFL.EMPH[NOMsg] REFL.ACC beat-LINK-2sg.PRES.IND
(sam means 'alone' as an adjective and it also corresponds to certain more peripheral uses of English reflexive pronouns, such as the emphatic 'director himself...' and the one with unexpected agency/no agency 'the door opened by itself')
cz-emu sam siebie bi-j-esz
what-DAT REFL.EMPH[NOMsg] REFL.ACC beat-LINK-2sg.PRES.IND
(sam means 'alone' as an adjective and it also corresponds to certain more peripheral uses of English reflexive pronouns, such as the emphatic 'director himself...' and the one with unexpected agency/no agency 'the door opened by itself')
if you can't decline it or conjugate it, piss on it.
Re: Why are you hitting yourself?
Sadrås
Vürünj hetta Ðe sjðj?
ADV.INTERR hit<PRS> 2SG.SUB RFLX-2SG.OBJ
One could also say
Vürünj sjhetta Ðe?
ADV.INTERR RFLX=hit<PRS> 2SG.SUB
But this sounds a little archaic.
Rozwi
Wodōm zim ʔihme?
There is a reflexive pronoun in Rozwi / žeič(oa)/, but it sounds pleonastic to use it in this example.
Çedara
¿Odcur tu pujsa te iso?
ADV.INTERR 2SG.NOM hit-PRS.3SG 2SG.OBJ RFLX
Vürünj hetta Ðe sjðj?
ADV.INTERR hit<PRS> 2SG.SUB RFLX-2SG.OBJ
One could also say
Vürünj sjhetta Ðe?
ADV.INTERR RFLX=hit<PRS> 2SG.SUB
But this sounds a little archaic.
Rozwi
Wodōm zim ʔihme?
There is a reflexive pronoun in Rozwi / žeič(oa)/, but it sounds pleonastic to use it in this example.
Çedara
¿Odcur tu pujsa te iso?
ADV.INTERR 2SG.NOM hit-PRS.3SG 2SG.OBJ RFLX
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?
Teeverb Kuluxem:
Blango ubhietma tunoi?
Lit: Why you hit you?
Esperanto:
Kial vi batas vin?
Blango ubhietma tunoi?
Lit: Why you hit you?
Esperanto:
Kial vi batas vin?
Fluent:
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Conlang: Teeverb Kuluxem
Learning: + + + + :heb: + Toki Pona + ASL
Conlang: Teeverb Kuluxem
Re: Why are you hitting yourself?
Caelian
Lizwye Zang tinfan?
[lisˈʋɛ zan tʰiɱˈβan]
why 2SG.ACC hit.2SG>2SG
Why are you hitting yourself?
You could equally use "Zan" - the 2SG.NOM pronoun. To use both, however, would sound a little unnatural.
Ular
从得头岩着你?
Tōng tā thâ lhó mŏn má?
[tiŋ˧ tɛ˧ tʰɛ˧˦˥ ʟɔ˥ mɔn˥˧ mɑ˥]
follow TOP head hit PROG 2SG
Why are you hitting yourself?
Bath'aso
Shels kralsokz tshennz zhuts krtak kxuzh.
[ʂɛls ˈkrɑlsɔkz̥ ͡tʂɛnːz ʐut͡s ˈkr̩tɑk ͡kxuʐ]
POT have=2SG.ERG reason CONT hit 2SG.INDR
You surely have a reason for why you keep on hitting yourself.
Lizwye Zang tinfan?
[lisˈʋɛ zan tʰiɱˈβan]
why 2SG.ACC hit.2SG>2SG
Why are you hitting yourself?
You could equally use "Zan" - the 2SG.NOM pronoun. To use both, however, would sound a little unnatural.
Ular
从得头岩着你?
Tōng tā thâ lhó mŏn má?
[tiŋ˧ tɛ˧ tʰɛ˧˦˥ ʟɔ˥ mɔn˥˧ mɑ˥]
follow TOP head hit PROG 2SG
Why are you hitting yourself?
Bath'aso
Shels kralsokz tshennz zhuts krtak kxuzh.
[ʂɛls ˈkrɑlsɔkz̥ ͡tʂɛnːz ʐut͡s ˈkr̩tɑk ͡kxuʐ]
POT have=2SG.ERG reason CONT hit 2SG.INDR
You surely have a reason for why you keep on hitting yourself.
Wipe the glass. This is the usual way to start, even in the days, day and night, only a happy one.
Re: Why are you hitting yourself?
Japoné語
君 oué pourquoé tu ga 打ttété 自身 au ca?
Quimi oué pourquoé tu ga outtété djichine au ca?
2SG TOP why 2SG NOM hit-PRES.PROG self ACC Q
Why are you hitting yourself?
君 oué pourquoé tu ga 打ttété 自身 au ca?
Quimi oué pourquoé tu ga outtété djichine au ca?
2SG TOP why 2SG NOM hit-PRES.PROG self ACC Q
Why are you hitting yourself?
☯ 道可道,非常道
☯ 名可名,非常名
☯ 名可名,非常名
Re: Why are you hitting yourself?
Usually kwa nini (or its more emphatic synonym mbona) goes first, and <j> is a pure palatal (usually implosive) not an affricate in the description of native speech.Thakowsaizmu wrote: Unajipiga kwa nini?
/u.nɑ.ɗʒi.'pi.ɠɑ kʷɑ 'ni.ni/
u-na-ji-piga kwa nini
2ps-PRES-refl-hit for what
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific, AG = agent, E = entity (person, animal, thing)
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MY MUSIC | MY PLANTS
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MY MUSIC | MY PLANTS
Re: Why are you hitting yourself?
Gulf Arabic does it more or less like English:
ليش تضرب نفسك؟ ليش تضربين نفسج؟
lēsh taḍrǝb nafsik? /lɛ:ʃ tɑðˤrʊbˤ næfsɪk/ (to a male)
lēsh taḍrǝbīn nafsič? /lɛ:ʃ tɑðˤrʊbi:n næfsɪʧ/ (to a female)
why 2P-hit self-2P?
lēsh can also be replaced with sh-ḥaggah (what for).
ليش تضرب نفسك؟ ليش تضربين نفسج؟
lēsh taḍrǝb nafsik? /lɛ:ʃ tɑðˤrʊbˤ næfsɪk/ (to a male)
lēsh taḍrǝbīn nafsič? /lɛ:ʃ tɑðˤrʊbi:n næfsɪʧ/ (to a female)
why 2P-hit self-2P?
lēsh can also be replaced with sh-ḥaggah (what for).
Re: Why are you hitting yourself?
Italiano
Perché ti colpisci/picchi da solo?
/per'ke ti kol'piːʃi 'pikki da 'soːlo/
why 2SG.REFL hit.2SG/beat.2SG REFL
"Colpisci" (colpire) is more literally "hit", while "picchi" (picchiare) means "beat, especially with fists".
Emilian - Dialàt Vgnulěṡ (specific dialect of an Italian local language)
Parchè 't péc-et da par tè?
/par'kε‿t 'petʃet dɐ pɐr 'tε/
why 2SG.REFL hit.2SG+2SG.ATONE REFL
"péc-et" is the question form for "et péc" (you beat), using an inversion system inherited from French.
Perché ti colpisci/picchi da solo?
/per'ke ti kol'piːʃi 'pikki da 'soːlo/
why 2SG.REFL hit.2SG/beat.2SG REFL
"Colpisci" (colpire) is more literally "hit", while "picchi" (picchiare) means "beat, especially with fists".
Emilian - Dialàt Vgnulěṡ (specific dialect of an Italian local language)
Parchè 't péc-et da par tè?
/par'kε‿t 'petʃet dɐ pɐr 'tε/
why 2SG.REFL hit.2SG+2SG.ATONE REFL
"péc-et" is the question form for "et péc" (you beat), using an inversion system inherited from French.
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?
Good french
Pourquoi te frappes-tu ?
Casual french
Pourquoi est-ce que tu t'frappes ?
Pourquoi tu t'frappes ?
Deyryck (non marian)
Yo nalfa'pn
oneself hit.GOAL:none.ABS_PL
Deyryck (marian)
'Nond yo nalfa'n
why oneself hit.GOAL:none.PL
Pourquoi te frappes-tu ?
Casual french
Pourquoi est-ce que tu t'frappes ?
Pourquoi tu t'frappes ?
Deyryck (non marian)
Yo nalfa'pn
oneself hit.GOAL:none.ABS_PL
Deyryck (marian)
'Nond yo nalfa'n
why oneself hit.GOAL:none.PL
Re: Why are you hitting yourself?
Mandarin
你为什么在打你自己?
Nǐ wèishéme zài dǎ nǐ zìjǐ?
2SG why PROG hit 2SG REFL
Why are you hitting yourself?
你为什么在打你自己?
Nǐ wèishéme zài dǎ nǐ zìjǐ?
2SG why PROG hit 2SG REFL
Why are you hitting yourself?
Wipe the glass. This is the usual way to start, even in the days, day and night, only a happy one.
Re: Why are you hitting yourself?
fšy pon imia, imia idtš.ie tan?
[fʃʉ̜ pʌn imia imia idtʃʔiɛ tan]
underlying form: fšy pon imia, imia ditši.e tan?
fš-y pon im-i-a,
do_what-GENERIC.NONPAST PR.FAR.ND.ACC CONN.CAUS-(i)-EVEN,
im-i-a ditš-i.e tan?
CONN.CAUS-(i)-EVEN hit-ANAPH_OBJ.NONPAST PR.NEAR.ND.ACC
Edit: this is Middle Rymakonian.
[fʃʉ̜ pʌn imia imia idtʃʔiɛ tan]
underlying form: fšy pon imia, imia ditši.e tan?
fš-y pon im-i-a,
do_what-GENERIC.NONPAST PR.FAR.ND.ACC CONN.CAUS-(i)-EVEN,
im-i-a ditš-i.e tan?
CONN.CAUS-(i)-EVEN hit-ANAPH_OBJ.NONPAST PR.NEAR.ND.ACC
Edit: this is Middle Rymakonian.
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?
griuskant (without the conscript)
ost raeda uar ve?
/'ost 'reda 'uar 'və/
2SG hit-V self why
ost raeda uar ve?
/'ost 'reda 'uar 'və/
2SG hit-V self why
Re: Why are you hitting yourself?
Ikāezin
Wûn Arnīz Zēinerīsrate tēa
/ɰu:n aɾni:z zˈeineɾi:sɾate tˈea/
why yourself-2SG.REFL hit-PROGRESSIVE.REFLEXIVE.2SG.PRES.IND ?-question mark
Why yourself are hitting your own person?
I know it might by kind of redundant, but reflection uses pronouns similar to the Spanish reflexive pronouns (se, te, me) plus a reflexive infix for verbs to indicate that the action is reflective.
Wûn Arnīz Zēinerīsrate tēa
/ɰu:n aɾni:z zˈeineɾi:sɾate tˈea/
why yourself-2SG.REFL hit-PROGRESSIVE.REFLEXIVE.2SG.PRES.IND ?-question mark
Why yourself are hitting your own person?
I know it might by kind of redundant, but reflection uses pronouns similar to the Spanish reflexive pronouns (se, te, me) plus a reflexive infix for verbs to indicate that the action is reflective.
Re: Why are you hitting yourself?
Cissian
unstressed reflexive:
Зачо ся беш?
/zaˈtʃo sʲa ˈbʲeʃ/
[z̪äˈt͡ʂɔ s̪ʲä ˈbʲeʂ↗]
začó sya b-yeš
why REFL.ACC hit.IMP-2SG
“Why are you hitting yourself?”
stressed reflexive:
Зачо сам себе беш?
/zaˈtʃo sam sʲeˈbʲe ˈbʲeʃ/
[z̪äˈt͡ʂɔ s̪äm s̪ʲeˈbʲe ˈbʲeʂ↗]
začó sam-∅ syebyé b-yeš
why REFL.EMPH-M REFL.ACC hit.IMP-2SG
“Why are you hitting yourself?”
unstressed reflexive:
Зачо ся беш?
/zaˈtʃo sʲa ˈbʲeʃ/
[z̪äˈt͡ʂɔ s̪ʲä ˈbʲeʂ↗]
začó sya b-yeš
why REFL.ACC hit.IMP-2SG
“Why are you hitting yourself?”
stressed reflexive:
Зачо сам себе беш?
/zaˈtʃo sam sʲeˈbʲe ˈbʲeʃ/
[z̪äˈt͡ʂɔ s̪äm s̪ʲeˈbʲe ˈbʲeʂ↗]
začó sam-∅ syebyé b-yeš
why REFL.EMPH-M REFL.ACC hit.IMP-2SG
“Why are you hitting yourself?”
Edit: Added another variant
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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?
Sortsbergish (Modern Gotski)
Hö slahs tu sek?
/høː slaxs tu sek/
why IPFV.hit-2S 2S.NOM REFL
"Why are you hitting yourself?"
sek is an indeclinable reflexive pronoun used for all persons and numbers.
Hö slahs tu sek?
/høː slaxs tu sek/
why IPFV.hit-2S 2S.NOM REFL
"Why are you hitting yourself?"
sek is an indeclinable reflexive pronoun used for all persons and numbers.
Re: Why are you hitting yourself?
Pigeonese
Nyõ kawoë nhäek slį?
/ɲɤ ka.woə ɲɜ.ɤk ɬɨ̃/
[ɲɞ ka.βɵ̜ː ɲ̊ɶʡ ɬɪɨj̃]
Nyõ ka-woë nhäek slį.
Why 2sg-slightly.INF hit self?
Nyõ kawoë nhäek slį?
/ɲɤ ka.woə ɲɜ.ɤk ɬɨ̃/
[ɲɞ ka.βɵ̜ː ɲ̊ɶʡ ɬɪɨj̃]
Nyõ ka-woë nhäek slį.
Why 2sg-slightly.INF hit self?