IIRC, Verdurian has /ʁ/! I think Verdurian would be a pretty awesome language if there weren't so many words that sounded just like their Germanic or Romance equivalents that it was impossible to suspend my disbelief that this was a language spoken on another planet.Vlürch wrote: ↑13 Jan 2020 03:59 Oh yeah, I like it too, but prefer the uvular ones at least adjacent to non-high back vowels (both the voiceless and voiced ones). I'm not too big a fan of the uvular trill, though, because so many of the languages that have it have it as the only rhotic... that's one of the reasons I like Amdo Tibetan, although I guess technically speaking it has /ʁ/ [ʀ] and it's not considered a rhotic, but meh.
As I recall, they went by AtlantaSportsEan and GotDatSwagger.Ah, I see. And yeah, that sounds like they may have been sockpuppets...Khemehekis wrote: ↑12 Jan 2020 01:06First of all, I should mention that the comment was identical to one a poster on Student Zone (a now-defunct forum for teens and twentysomethings), where I shared my rock musical, posted. That poster had a "tag team" partner who was really into a few certain sports teams. A few weeks after one of the two posters made his "looking like a queer" comment on Student Zone, he and his friend were both banned (maybe they were sockpuppets of each other?), so knowing that that kind of "looking like a queer" idiocy led someone to get banned was good release.
I hit myself in the word whenever I hear or read someone use the word "whxxps". (I had to censor the vowels out with X's, so I don't cause myself to slam my forehead by writing it.) I was never a cutter, but I've bitten myself since I was about 10.Ouch, biting wrists sounds painful and dangerous, but I feel like I can kind of relate because I used to cut my arms (nowadays I only hit myself in the head and am trying to stop doing that too).
Thanks. I think it's really bad when someone uses a homophobic insult to attack a straight person. It implies that there's something wrong with homo- or bisexuality. Imagine if someone on the Internet wrote, "You worthless nxgger!" every time a (Caucasian!) person did or said something he thought was stupid or lame. He would get banned from the forum pretty quickly. Too bad it doesn't happen as quickly with homophobia.Anyway, props to you for calling him out! I don't think I've ever had the balls to do that... I mean, nowadays I don't care if someone calls me homophobic slurs or whatever since I've fully accepted that I'm bi and that the only ones who can give me shit for it are LGBT people, but like, I still marvel at people being brave enough to actually confront bullies and assholes, especially without resorting to being assholes themselves. So often it's like, one person acts like an asshole and then the person they were assholy towards reacts by acting like an asshole too... it has to take real strength to not stoop to their level.
And then, when someone directs that homophobic insult at someone who actually is LGBT, well, that's outright hate speech. I wouldn't resort to responding to "looking like a queer" with "You fucking breeder!", because bigotry in the opposite direction is also wrong (like if an African-American flamed a White guy by writing "You worthless hxnkey!")
Yeah. There's a reason I called it the "metalhead/nerd/edgy" demographic. A lot of metalheads seem to be edgelords, obsessed with being as edgy as possible. Like they'll put stuff with an attitude up on their MySpace pages, occasionally interspersing it with something about cute little kittens, just to be ironic (and therefore add to the edginess).Mmh, yeah, that of course has something to do with it. A lot of metalheads tend to be pretty assholy, especially ones who just listen to metal but don't make music themselves...Khemehekis wrote: ↑12 Jan 2020 01:06I probably get a different audience from you. Rather than the "metalhead/nerd/edgy" demographic, my audience is the "typical Millennial/pop-rock fan/Youth Culturalist/rebel against social norms/anarchist" demographic.
There was this guy on Teleboards (a now-defunct Canadian-owned forum) who went by Dragon of Blood. Dragon was obsessed with a metal band called Iced Earth. Dragon of Blood was an appropriate name, as he would breathe flames draconinely at as many other posters as he could, and was friends with a few other ierks who liked to flame newbies. He would repeatedly address me as "You worthless faggot" (I'm not even sure if he knew I was bisexual). His posts were filled with references to pedophilia, beating people up, and raping corpses. Dragon liked to accuse other posters of being pedophiles, which due to Teleboards' censorware, appeared as "feltching feltching feltching feltching phile".
I had to google Deformed Elephant Surgery. I had never heard of them, and it seems they're so obscure that Amazon doesn't even carry their music. Weird stuff; I can't tell whether their noise is supposed to be upbeat, sad, or angry.Vlürch wrote:Of course, yeah, positive comments are always nice and can counter the negative ones. It's funny how nowadays the vast majority of comments even on Deformed Elephant Surgery stuff are positive, when in the past the negativity sometimes escalated pretty far. I'm not sure why, but I'd like to think that maybe in part it could mean that metalheads in general are starting to not be as turned off by random happy electronic shit and autotuned vocals and whatnot... but more likely it's just that the ones that hate that type of stuff don't go out of their way to find any just to call it shit anymore due to reduced attention spans or something like that.Khemehekis wrote: ↑12 Jan 2020 01:06I do get positive comments (one that has now disappeared was from a girl named Robin who said, "Love the look too, man") as well as negative, so those keep my spirits boosted.
I remember reading a comment on Quora in a post on different high school subcultures, stating that metalheads feel as if they were born into the wrong century. Obviously they're not listening to Imagine Dragons or Bastille, let alone Justin Bieber . . .
Well, sometimes a comment of the sort you asked about does pertain to my creative material. When I posted the synopsis and song lyrics to The Bittersweet Generation (a musical set at a fictional high school called Dulcevida) on fora, two separate girls accused me of rupping off Disney's High School Musical! I had never seen HSM at the time, so I most decidedly was not ripping it off. The first girl thought it was a rip-off merely because (a) it was a musical (b) set at a high school. She told me, "It's been done" and "come up with a more original idea for a musical".Hmm, makes sense but does that mean it wouldn't bother you just as much if someone vehemently accuses you of being something you're not?Khemehekis wrote: ↑12 Jan 2020 01:06Other comments like the "hurensohn" comment are just generic abuse that doesn't actually comment on any aspect of my song nor my singing, nor even my dress nor the way I carry myself, so they don't really bother me.
After I mentioned that (a) I had never seen HSM, (b) I had been working on my musical long before HSM was a glimmer in Kenny Ortega's eye, (c) The Bittersweet Generation focuses on different kinds of kids (skaters, hipsters, preppies, trendies, aspiring rock stars) at a different kind of high school (instead of the Boomer-teen-era social hierarchy of High School Musical), (d) The Bittersweet Generation was aimed at an older audience than HSM, (e) my musical dealt with different issues (like youth rights, social conventions, civil disobedience, homosexuality, and generational differences) than HSM, (f) the conflicts that drive my musical are between students and faculty instead of between thespian students and non-thespian students, and (g) if someone decided, after the first musical to be set in New York City, that New York "had already been done", we would have missed out on West Side Story, Guys and Dolls, A Chorus Line, and RENT . . . that girl replied by writing, "Don't get your panties in a bunch". Hello? Boys don't wear panties!
Another accusation (from the second girl, who also wrote, "Are you trying to rewrite HSM or something?") was that "all the characters are stock", but I think that perception came from the original way I introduced the characters' personality with a few words when they first appeared in my play, rather than a true assessment at the degree of originality of my characters. I have since taken the direct-characterization descriptions out of my libretto, and I haven't heard that criticism since.
And another possibility I'd like to add to Salmoneus' list of reasons criticisms and flames on the Net might bother someone: He feels existential frustration at the thought of being misunderstood or misinterpreted. I can't tell you how many times I rushed to correct a completely barking-up-the-wrong tree misinterpretation of something I wrote. Luckily, on this forum, we have a House Rule that says, "Don't put words in other people's mouths", but even here, it still happens occasionally.