Conlang Conversation Thread

[lurker]

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rmr KC B dFrHGp smprb
rmr   KC     B    dFrHG-p 0 smpr-b
today again  from test-3D I fall-NAUTH
I failed the test again today.

[thethief3]

arakipiti mamani tu kaśani kuumi kuumi
talk+ki+pi+ti IMPF-show GEN useful less/fewer less/fewer
“Chatgpt is proving less and less useful”

[Prime]

Siá siye vá! Yau séuvistadh ca paiasú.
Ca ajhestia, yau hreyaus kempál paiasá ca ceia vo promyadh kahí ckané, yau hreyun estim vo limradh vaió.

Hi person every! 1sg be_new.PRS PREP place-this.
PREP honesty, 1sg be.PRS.PRF lurker place-in PREP time REL be_long.PRS very_much however, 1sg become.PRS.PRF member REL be_authentic.PRS finally

Hi everyone! I am new here.
Actually, I have been a lurker here for a very long time however, I have finally become a real member.

[Arayaz]

Siá siye vá! Yau séuvistadh ca paiasú.
Ca ajhestia, yau hreyaus kempál paiasá ca ceia vo promyadh kahí ckané, yau hreyun estim vo limradh vaió.

Hi person every! 1sg be_new.PRS PREP place-this.
PREP honesty, 1sg be.PRS.PRF lurker place-in PREP time REL be_long.PRS very_much however, 1sg become.PRS.PRF member REL be_authentic.PRS finally

Hi everyone! I am new here.
Actually, I have been a lurker here for a very long time however, I have finally become a real member.

Talhelạrriler

Ạkạverar.
Greetings.

Ika kạvạwelh ạvạvọvọḥ.
I have seen some posts you have made.

Ḥọką̇çer nǫ̇ngelh kạwạwą̇çalh?
What do you call your language?

Edit: Forgot to nasalize the ɔ in nǫ̇ngelh

[lurker]

Siá siye vá! Yau séuvistadh ca paiasú.
Ca ajhestia, yau hreyaus kempál paiasá ca ceia vo promyadh kahí ckané, yau hreyun estim vo limradh vaió.

Hi person every! 1sg be_new.PRS PREP place-this.
PREP honesty, 1sg be.PRS.PRF lurker place-in PREP time REL be_long.PRS very_much however, 1sg become.PRS.PRF member REL be_authentic.PRS finally

Hi everyone! I am new here.
Actually, I have been a lurker here for a very long time however, I have finally become a real member.

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L rLPqp BCqb sFsFqn
L   rLPq-p      BCq-b              sFsF-qn
may light-3D    illuminate-NAUTH   friend-
Light shine upon you, friend. (greetings)

[Prime]

Siá siye vá! Yau séuvistadh ca paiasú.
Ca ajhestia, yau hreyaus kempál paiasá ca ceia vo promyadh kahí ckané, yau hreyun estim vo limradh vaió.

Hi person every! 1sg be_new.PRS PREP place-this.
PREP honesty, 1sg be.PRS.PRF lurker place-in PREP time REL be_long.PRS very_much however, 1sg become.PRS.PRF member REL be_authentic.PRS finally

Hi everyone! I am new here.
Actually, I have been a lurker here for a very long time however, I have finally become a real member.

Talhelạrriler

Ạkạverar.
Greetings.

Ika kạvạwelh ạvạvọvọḥ.
I have seen some posts you have made.

Ḥọką̇çer nọngelh kạwạwą̇çalh?
What do you call your language?

Ga tiarádh Zomítla
It's called Zomítla

[Prime]

Siá siye vá! Yau séuvistadh ca paiasú.
Ca ajhestia, yau hreyaus kempál paiasá ca ceia vo promyadh kahí ckané, yau hreyun estim vo limradh vaió.

Hi person every! 1sg be_new.PRS PREP place-this.
PREP honesty, 1sg be.PRS.PRF lurker place-in PREP time REL be_long.PRS very_much however, 1sg become.PRS.PRF member REL be_authentic.PRS finally

Hi everyone! I am new here.
Actually, I have been a lurker here for a very long time however, I have finally become a real member.

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L rLPqp BCqb sFsFqn
L   rLPq-p      BCq-b              sFsF-qn
may light-3D    illuminate-NAUTH   friend-
Light shine upon you, friend. (greetings)

Meiasu!
Thanks!

[kiwikami]

Siá siye vá! Yau séuvistadh ca paiasú.
Ca ajhestia, yau hreyaus kempál paiasá ca ceia vo promyadh kahí ckané, yau hreyun estim vo limradh vaió.

Hi everyone! I am new here.
Actually, I have been a lurker here for a very long time however, I have finally become a real member.

Ḷatumùlǎ!
ḷu<atv>m-ùl-à-á
greet<1.2>-ᴀꜰꜰ-ᴄ-xᴠ.ᴀ
Welcome!

Ḷí·Skuskìùhaı mazǐarìṭ·katràaı·lla, Isǎmukkûàx ḷímuḷíkumràax.
ḷí=CV~sku<ìvr̀>h-aı mza<ìvr̀>ŕ-ìṭ-kat-rà-aı=lla, sa<ì>m-úkkû-àx ḷu<ímv-Cvŕkv>m-rà-àx
althoughʏ↧=ʜᴀʙ~amuse<4.4>-ᴅᴠᴀ interact<4.4>-ɴᴇɢ-watch-ɴᴏᴍᴠ.ᴘ-ᴅᴠᴀ=that turn.out.well<4>-sometimesᴇ↑x-ᴄᴠᴀ greet<4.4PL-allᴏ>-ɴᴏᴍᴠ.ᴘ-ᴄᴠᴀ
Lurking is fun, but it can be nice to say hello to everyone. :D

[Arayaz]

Haesičáéyae

Háéni"schoolemail" waekwáé waexaexutwáé; háéniw̌aewaetáé háémyaei lhaexaelháéyae!
Today my school email address is being changed to reflect my new name!

[Znex]

Amggggg saeeee guith! Ʒ'am sae glath for tha! Ʒe kan'k bithe tils ʒe kan mesʒen wende me namn offisielt.
Omggggggg soooo good! I'm so happy for you!! I can't wait until I can change my name officially.

The stuirst hinder for me nou is ill hygre: ʒe recce mesʒen ennou um opnen mesʒen for me foreldrer, ennae i sannin thar ʒ'ick. Ʒe gie mesʒen um oʒsa mickle.
The biggest hurdle for me still is nerves: I still worry about coming out to my folks, although in truth I needn't. I give myself grief over too much.

[Flavia]

Haesičáéyae

Háéni"schoolemail" waekwáé waexaexutwáé; háéniw̌aewaetáé háémyaei lhaexaelháéyae!
Today my school email address is being changed to reflect my new name!

Bey, mino! I Polan na, chanatiar sune i cian i namilem i namnemor iles ni ro yo cher i as ceti.
That's wonderful! In Poland, I'd need to be 18 and file a lawsuit against my parents in order to do that.

[Arayaz]

Amggggg saeeee guith! Ʒ'am sae glath for tha! Ʒe kan'k bithe tils ʒe kan mesʒen wende me namn offisielt.
Omggggggg soooo good! I'm so happy for you!! I can't wait until I can change my name officially.

The stuirst hinder for me nou is ill hygre: ʒe recce mesʒen ennou um opnen mesʒen for me foreldrer, ennae i sannin thar ʒ'ick. Ʒe gie mesʒen um oʒsa mickle.
The biggest hurdle for me still is nerves: I still worry about coming out to my folks, although in truth I needn't. I give myself grief over too much.

Bey, mino! I Polan na, chanatiar sune i cian i namilem i namnemor iles ni ro yo cher i as ceti.
That's wonderful! In Poland, I'd need to be 18 and file a lawsuit against my parents in order to do that.

Makihip

Mik xonatemayewetu tokomenawat xoxohwanoya(a?)y mik.
It's not official yet, but certain documents do not need to follow the official government things.

New Makihip stuff:

Spoiler:

-ay- (negation) and -ewe- (implying a probable change of the state in the future). Also, the idiom mik xo-tim-, literally "gods approve of" but meaning more along the lines of "official" or "valid," which is a reflection of the theocractic culture of the Mawip. More on that later, possibly. Also -to- "but, however, regardless," -uya- "to need to," and -awat- "some but not all." And tokomin "document," which is a borrowing from English.

Edit: Regarding recent changes to the language, I have altered some parts.

[lsd]

fºf­¼_¯°M}­«Þ@«´jf¼fºSfºÎL_R
(my name plural and known by pipe carrier of my word and my sex unique please...)
I had a lot of mailbox names but fortunately only one sex...

[kiwikami]

Háéni"schoolemail" waekwáé waexaexutwáé; háéniw̌aewaetáé háémyaei lhaexaelháéyae!
Today my school email address is being changed to reflect my new name!

Talùhùlısaıá!
tla<ù>h-ùl-ısa-ı-á
fortune<2>-AFF-continueE↥-DUR-XV
Congrats!

Is·Aẓàxḳàma kuzaḳ tıǎm raúr Klıàmxaàx lkazata ahà·lakìzaút mlumáuár.
ıs=ẓa<à>x-ḳàm-a kuz<a>ḳ ta<ıv>r̀-vŕ-m raúr klı<và>m-xa-à-x lka<az-a#a>t ahà=lka<ìz-aú>t mlumá<uá>r
duringR⤒=throw<1.3>-FREQ-V.ACT winter<OBL> many<3>-ATTR-STAT this.PAT correct<1.3>-BEN-CONC-V.ACT name<1-OBL> in.the.eyes.ofZ⤒=name<4.1-PAT> government<OBL>
I have been putting off legally changing my name for years.

Lı·Sıàzàrıu·ksıuhǎ thızukraı mıtas...
lı=sı<và>z-àr-ıu-ksı<u>h-à-á thu<ızv>k-ra-ı mıtas
beforeR-=time<1.3>-HYP-despite-begin<DURE+>-CONC-XV hunt<3.1>-NOMV.OBL-DUR not.yet
Should get around to that before it becomes a problem...

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New fun thing: Used the possession system to make a distinction between someone's name (that they chose themselves) and someone's name (that was given to them). Should write up info on Alál's speakers' naming practices some time, since that's actually very culturally relevant.

[Arayaz]

Háéni"schoolemail" waekwáé waexaexutwáé; háéniw̌aewaetáé háémyaei lhaexaelháéyae!
Today my school email address is being changed to reflect my new name!

Talùhùlısaıá!
tla<ù>h-ùl-ısa-ı-á
fortune<2>-AFF-continueE↥-DUR-XV
Congrats!

Is·Aẓàxḳàma kuzaḳ tıǎm raúr Klıàmxaàx lkazata ahà·lakìzaút mlumáuár.
ıs=ẓa<à>x-ḳàm-a kuz<a>ḳ ta<ıv>r̀-vŕ-m raúr klı<và>m-xa-à-x lka<az-a#a>t ahà=lka<ìz-aú>t mlumá<uá>r
duringR⤒=throw<1.3>-FREQ-V.ACT winter<OBL> many<3>-ATTR-STAT this.PAT correct<1.3>-BEN-CONC-V.ACT name<1-OBL> in.the.eyes.ofZ⤒=name<4.1-PAT> government<OBL>
I have been putting off legally changing my name for years.

Lı·Sıàzàrıu·ksıuhǎ thızukraı mıtas...
lı=sı<và>z-àr-ıu-ksı<u>h-à-á thu<ızv>k-ra-ı mıtas
beforeR-=time<1.3>-HYP-despite-begin<DURE+>-CONC-XV hunt<3.1>-NOMV.OBL-DUR not.yet
Should get around to that before it becomes a problem...

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New fun thing: Used the possession system to make a distinction between someone's name (that they chose themselves) and someone's name (that was given to them). Should write up info on Alál's speakers' naming practices some time, since that's actually very culturally relevant.

Te tatransatut?
Are you trans too, then?

Spoiler:

I have decided that the conjunctive suffixes can also be placed on their own sentence-initially to attach to what someone else has said.

[kiwikami]

Te tatransatut?
Are you trans too, then?

Mulas!
ma<ul>as
that<AFF>.O
Indeed!

Mrıtmàrlıàx ahà·muluas azà Is·Ṣalılıíha ráa Ṭǔluhùlhàḳǎma Kukàuár Zàı·zmıṭaì.
mrı<ıt>m-àr-lı-àx ahà=ma<ul-u>as za<a#a>r̀ ıs=ṣa<lı~lı-í#a>h ráa ṭu<ùlv-ŕ>h-ùl-hà-ḳàm-á kukà<uá>r zar̀+vzmı<ṭaı>r̀
please<3.2>-HYP-PST-CVA in.opinion=that<AFF-DEO>.O 1<O> during=day<PST~PST-A> this.O
shout<1INC.4PL-PL>-AFF-down.from-FREQ-XVA mountain<O> self+transform<smith.A>
Happy belated Trans Day of Visibility to us.

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Spoiler:

1. Ooh, definitely coining hamuazà / haluazà as a discourse marker (roughly meaning "I hope so") from a shortening of ahà·muluas azà.

2. "Trans Day of Visibility" here was translated as a whole clause so I could use inclusive we person agreement on the verb. Formally, as a noun, it'd be Is·Ṣàh hàka·Ṭímûrhulraḳǎma Kukàuár za'sa Zàı·zmıṭaì, which if translated vaguely pretentiously means "high tide when they who forge their own transformations shout repeatedly down from a mountain". Idiomatically, to shout [something] down from atop a mountain is to declare that it exists, or declare something about it, with absolute certainty and direct personal experience. (One trusts the mountaineer, after all, to report most accurately about what is on the other side.) The "tide" thing is a consequence of not having a word for day, per say. I never do get around to talking about Alál's associated conworld; suffice it to say no one has seen the (thing that replaced the) sun in living memory, but the tides are precisely regular down to the minute, and so are the primary timekeeper.

3. ...Alternatively, if you wanted to be deeply poetic and take advantage of the fact that (1) the hàka·Ṭuhaı kukàuár idiom can probably be turned into a compound verb, Kur·ṭuhàhaı, (2) the first halves of verb compounds are semantically ambiguous, (3) the root KUR "mountain" in verb form coincidentally has some very specific meanings, (4) and -hà- "down from" has the non-literal interpretation "simply/merely/just", you could also say this:

Kímûzaızmıṭàrùl·ṭuhàhraḳǎma
ku<ímv-ŕ-zar̀+zmı<ṭa>r̀>r-ùl+ṭu<hà>h-ra-ḳàm-á
mountain<4.4PL-PL-self+transform<smith.O>>AFF+shout<down.from>-NOM.V.OBL-FREQ-XVA
"(the event when) people shout down from a mountaintop about (i.e. decree, with the backing of experience, the existence of) trans people"
...or...
"(the event when) people simply shout about some journey/experience (that is long, exhausting, sometimes proclaimed to be futile, often socially taboo, usually dangerous, and generally of deep personal and/or spiritual significance, from which you do not expect to return the same as when you left) as it relates to trans people"

So that's fun.

[Arayaz]

Te tatransatut?
Are you trans too, then?

Mulas!
ma<ul>as
that<AFF>.O
Indeed!

Mrıtmàrlıàx ahà·muluas azà Is·Ṣalılıíha ráa Ṭǔluhùlhàḳǎma Kukàuár Zàı·zmıṭaì.
mrı<ıt>m-àr-lı-àx ahà=ma<ul-u>as za<a#a>r̀ ıs=ṣa<lı~lı-í#a>h ráa ṭu<ùlv-ŕ>h-ùl-hà-ḳàm-á kukà<uá>r zar̀+vzmı<ṭaı>r̀
please<3.2>-HYP-PST-CVA in.opinion=that<AFF-DEO>.O 1<O> during=day<PST~PST-A> this.O
shout<1INC.4PL-PL>-AFF-down.from-FREQ-XVA mountain<O> self+transform<smith.A>
Happy belated Trans Day of Visibility to us.

Kǒ cáho koxaroxarasàsa!
Glad to know you're one of us!! (Ugh, I can't figure out how to put this in English. It's basically "welcome," but when the situation was already true.)

Spoiler:

1. Ooh, definitely coining hamuazà / haluazà as a discourse marker (roughly meaning "I hope so") from a shortening of ahà·muluas azà.

2. "Trans Day of Visibility" here was translated as a whole clause so I could use inclusive we person agreement on the verb. Formally, as a noun, it'd be Is·Ṣàh hàka·Ṭímûrhulraḳǎma Kukàuár za'sa Zàı·zmıṭaì, which if translated vaguely pretentiously means "high tide when they who forge their own transformations shout repeatedly down from a mountain". Idiomatically, to shout [something] down from atop a mountain is to declare that it exists, or declare something about it, with absolute certainty and direct personal experience. (One trusts the mountaineer, after all, to report most accurately about what is on the other side.) The "tide" thing is a consequence of not having a word for day, per say. I never do get around to talking about Alál's associated conworld; suffice it to say no one has seen the (thing that replaced the) sun in living memory, but the tides are precisely regular down to the minute, and so are the primary timekeeper.

3. ...Alternatively, if you wanted to be deeply poetic and take advantage of the fact that (1) the hàka·Ṭuhaı kukàuár idiom can probably be turned into a compound verb, Kur·ṭuhàhaı, (2) the first halves of verb compounds are semantically ambiguous, (3) the root KUR "mountain" in verb form coincidentally has some very specific meanings, (4) and -hà- "down from" has the non-literal interpretation "simply/merely/just", you could also say this:

Kímûzaızmıṭàrùl·ṭuhàhraḳǎma
ku<ímv-ŕ-zar̀+zmı<ṭa>r̀>r-ùl+ṭu<hà>h-ra-ḳàm-á
mountain<4.4PL-PL-self+transform<smith.O>>AFF+shout<down.from>-NOM.V.OBL-FREQ-XVA
"(the event when) people shout down from a mountaintop about (i.e. decree, with the backing of experience, the existence of) trans people"
...or...
"(the event when) people simply shout about some journey/experience (that is long, exhausting, sometimes proclaimed to be futile, often socially taboo, usually dangerous, and generally of deep personal and/or spiritual significance, from which you do not expect to return the same as when you left) as it relates to trans people"

So that's fun.

Qâso cáho ’arosasǎ.
This is all very cool.

[Prime]

Siá siye vá.
Ca vala, yau níyawim UTMEyáu!
UTME hreyadh níyawis vo yau níyawaus hasgadh kurimhanír Naijhiriasá.
Yau tijhadh vo yau rákinav!

/'sia 'sije 'va ∣∣ ʃa 'vala ∣ jaʊ 'nijawim jutmi'jaʊ ∣∣ 'jutmi 'hɾejað 'nijawis vo jau 'niyawaʊs 'hasɡað kuɾimha'niɾ naɪʒiɾia'sa ∣∣ jaʊ 'tiʒað vo jaʊ 'ɾakinav/

Hi person every.
PREP yesterday, 1sg sit_for.PRS UTME-1sg.POSS!
UTME be.PREP exam REL 1sg sit_for.OBL gain_admission_into.INF university Nigeria_in.
1sg hope.PRS REL 1sg pass.FUT

Hi everyone.
Yesterday, I sat for my UTME!
UTME is an exam that I have to sit for so as to gain admission into a university in Nigeria.
I hope I passed!

[lurker]

Siá siye vá.
Ca vala, yau níyawim UTMEyáu!
UTME hreyadh níyawis vo yau níyawaus hasgadh kurimhanír Naijhiriasá.
Yau tijhadh vo yau rákinav!

/'sia 'sije 'va ∣∣ ʃa 'vala ∣ jaʊ 'nijawim jutmi'jaʊ ∣∣ 'jutmi 'hɾejað 'nijawis vo jau 'niyawaʊs 'hasɡað kuɾimha'niɾ naɪʒiɾia'sa ∣∣ jaʊ 'tiʒað vo jaʊ 'ɾakinav/

Hi person every.
PREP yesterday, 1sg sit_for.PRS UTME-1sg.POSS!
UTME be.PREP exam REL 1sg sit_for.OBL gain_admission_into.INF university Nigeria_in.
1sg hope.PRS REL 1sg pass.FUT

Hi everyone.
Yesterday, I sat for my UTME!
UTME is an exam that I have to sit for so as to gain admission into a university in Nigeria.
I hope I passed!

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L    sjr       dBqm-qn      rBc-b       g     dFrHG-qN
OPT  tomorrow  student-2    pass-NAUTH  POS   exam-3M
May you pass your exam tomorrow, student.

KC     B    g    dFrHG-Mr CD   rDBsfbrGH-g     0 smpr-b
again  from POS  test-3P over  farspeaking-3I  I fall-NAUTH
I failed my network engineering test again.

rBFr K      B-0
four time   try-AUTH
I've tried four times now.

[Arayaz]

Siá siye vá.
Ca vala, yau níyawim UTMEyáu!
UTME hreyadh níyawis vo yau níyawaus hasgadh kurimhanír Naijhiriasá.
Yau tijhadh vo yau rákinav!

/'sia 'sije 'va ∣∣ ʃa 'vala ∣ jaʊ 'nijawim jutmi'jaʊ ∣∣ 'jutmi 'hɾejað 'nijawis vo jau 'niyawaʊs 'hasɡað kuɾimha'niɾ naɪʒiɾia'sa ∣∣ jaʊ 'tiʒað vo jaʊ 'ɾakinav/

Hi person every.
PREP yesterday, 1sg sit_for.PRS UTME-1sg.POSS!
UTME be.PREP exam REL 1sg sit_for.OBL gain_admission_into.INF university Nigeria_in.
1sg hope.PRS REL 1sg pass.FUT

Hi everyone.
Yesterday, I sat for my UTME!
UTME is an exam that I have to sit for so as to gain admission into a university in Nigeria.
I hope I passed!

Ụụkụmwụụ!
I wish you luck!

Ngwa lụkooħụ ngụwerụ ụụňisoħụ.
I have a huge presentation tomorrow.

A ụụwụụmwerụħoo...
I also have a cold...