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Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 25 Jan 2012 19:58
by Shrdlu
Swedish
Jag behöver pengar
I need money.
Jag vill ha pengar
I want money(Lit. I will have moneys).
Jag saknar pengar
I lack money.(Lit. I miss moneys).

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 28 Feb 2012 14:03
by Selinki
Selinki

:eng: I need money.
:con: Dry tale sashej
[D4} t"a:l<vzd>e s"a:s`ej]
Me-LOC need-INF money-PL.ACC

:eng: I want money.
:con: Je slaczl sashej
[je sl<vzd>"a:ts`l<vzd> s"a:s`ej]
Me-NOM want-1SG money-PL.ACC

:eng: I lack money.
:con: Dry mizbaj sashej
[D4} mizb"aj s"a:s`ej]
Me-LOC NEG-be-3SG money-PL.ACC

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 19 Mar 2013 18:16
by Chagen
:con: Pazmat:

Sobozos albi.
money-ACC need-1SG

Sobozos seir.
money-ACC have-1SG-DESDER
(Lit. "I want to have money"--Pazmat doesn't possess a seperate verb meaning "to want")

Ixni Sobozos sei.
no-ADJ money-ACC have-1SG

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 20 Mar 2013 04:11
by Lao Kou
Image Géarthnuns

Sí la sa jaflensat kfakh/üraf/psökh.
[si 'la sa ja'flɛ̃sat 'kfax/y'ɾaf/'psøx]
1SG-NOM AUX.PRES INDEF money-ACC need/want/lack
I need/want/lack money.

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 20 Mar 2013 06:27
by clawgrip
:con: Himmaswa

Image or Image
Hwai plarsdaa dbuoon. or Dbuoon plarsdaa.
1 need money / money need

Image or Image
Hwai jer dbuoon. or Dbuoon jer.
1 want money / money want

Image or Image
Hwai dbuoon pleu. or Dbuoon pleu.
1 money be.lacking / money be.lacking

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 20 Mar 2013 13:01
by ol bofosh
:con: Gnoughish
Yoa noan tcedda.
/jɶ nɶn 'tʃed.da/
yoa noan tcedd-a
1SG.NOM need[1SG.PRS.IND] money-ACC.FEM.SG

I need money.

Yoa hiegg tcedda.
/jɶ hjeg 'tʃed.da/
yoa hiegg tcedda-a
1SG.NOM want[1SG.PRS.IND] money-ACC.FEM.SG

I want money.

No verb for "lack", but have can be negativised.

Yoa gloedd tcedda.
/jɶ nœ glœd 'tʃed.da/
yoa noe gloedd tcedd-a
1SG.NOM NEG have[1SG.PRS.IND] money-ACC.FEM.SG

I lack money.
(lit. I don't have money)

:con: Alahithian
Om finuyt regit.
/om ˈfi.ɳujt ˈɾe.git/
om finuy-t regit
1SG need-PRS money

I need money.

Om lefiwt regit.
/om ɭe.fiwt ˈɾe.git/
om lefiw-t regit
1SG want-PRS money

I want money.

Om finawt regit.
/om ˈfi.ɳawt ˈɾe.git/
om finaw-t regit
1SG lack-PRS money

I lack money.

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 20 Mar 2013 21:06
by Creyeditor
Shrdlu wrote:Swedish
Jag behöver pengar
I need money.
Jag vill ha pengar
I want money(Lit. I will have moneys).
Jag saknar pengar
I lack money.(Lit. I miss moneys).
:deu: German

Ich brauch-e Geld.
1.SG.NOM need-1.SG.PRS.IND money
I need money.

Ich will Geld.
1.SG.NOM want.1.SG.PRS.IND money
I want money.

Mir fehl-t das Geld.
1.SG.DAT be.missing-3.SG.PRS.IND DEF.N.SG.NOM money
I lack (the) money.
Edit: Sorry for posting something in German again. I did not notice that their was a first page [:$] Well, now you can see, that there are two possibilities for the third sentence, of whom Avo's is definitly more common.

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 20 Mar 2013 21:17
by Shrdlu
Your too late, though your phrasing is a bit different.

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 01 Apr 2013 14:59
by Sangfroidish
Hràre chì aich ìn corat.
[ˈhrɑːɾ.e xiː a̯ix iːn ˈkoɾ.at̪ʰ]
own.PRS NEC 1.SG ART.NDEF.IN money
"I need to have (some) money."

Hràre ha aich ìn corat.
[ˈhrɑːɾ.e hɑ a̯ix iːn ˈkoɾ.at̪ʰ]
own.PRS DES 1.SG ART.NDEF.IN money
"I want to have (some) money."

Hràr-y aich ìn corat.
[ˈhrɑːɾ.ɪ a̯ix iːn ˈkoɾ.at̪ʰ]
own.PRS-NEG 1.SG ART.NDEF.IN money
"I don't have (any) money."

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 28 Aug 2013 17:57
by zyx3166
Roguel:
Dineruta bosam.
money-ACC want-1SG
Dineruta jotam
money-ACC need-1SG
Dineru sudelltekimat.
money 1SG.LOC-exist-3SG-NEG
or Dineruta zastam.
money-ACC lack-1SG

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 04 Dec 2013 16:49
by Bagliun Edar
:con:Obulamga

Bidiorunomdo ulbumjoabil.
[ˈbidiɔɾuˌnɔmdɔ ˈulbumʒɔˌabil]
bidiorun-om-do ulbum-jo-abil
money-[NEUT]-ACC-TOP need-IND.POL-1SG.NOM
I need money.

Bidiorunomdo ulgrulemjoabil.
[ˈbidiɔɾuˌnɔmdɔ ˈulgɾulɛmʒɔˌabil]
bidiorun-om-do ulgrulem-jo-abil
money-[NEUT]-ACC-TOP want-IND.POL-1SG.NOM
I want money.

Zombidiorunjoabil.
[ˈzɔmbidiɔɾunʒɔˌabil]
zombidiorun-jo-abil
money_lack-IND.POL-1SG.NOM
I lack money.

Bidiorunomdo albamjoabil.
[ˈbidiɔɾuˌnɔmdɔ ˈalbamʒɔˌabil]
bidiorun-om-do albam-jo-abil
money-[NEUT]-ACC-TOP have_plenty-IND.POL-1SG.NOM
I have plenty of money.

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 05 Dec 2013 00:05
by Plusquamperfekt
:con: Miwonša

I need money: Tričiman zjašpi.

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[trič-im-an      zjašp-i]
need-1SG-IPFV   money-ACC
I want money: Yežiman zjašpi.

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[yež-im-an      zjašp-i]
want-1SG-IPFV   money-ACC
I lack money: Mayo žai zjašpi.

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mayo      žai   zjašp-i
1SG.DAT   not   money-NOM
I have much money: Mayo zjašpi tonši.

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mayo      zjašp-i    tonš-i
1SG.DAT   money-SG   much-NOM.SG  
Declension of "zjašpi": zjašpi (NOM), žjašpi (ACC), zjašpik (GEN), zjašpiš (DAT) (singular tantum)

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 05 Dec 2013 00:46
by Andlat
I need money.
I want money.
I lack money.

Mí'tarfijas pövkur.
Mína tarfijas pövkur.

1S need.PRES money.
I need money.

Mí'halutas pövkur.
Mína halutas pövkur.

1S want.PRES money.
I want money.

Mína hwe mënas pövkur.
1S NEG have.PRES money.
I don't have money.

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 05 Dec 2013 17:27
by DesEsseintes
:con: Nınuıntı

Aunua tıalıaru ıaua.
be.absent<u-grade>-3sn money to=1s
I need money.

Aınııga tıalıaru.
be.absent<CAUS>-1s money
I want money.

Ana upua tıalıaru.
be.absent-3sn by=1s money
I don't have money.

Aaıuna tıalıaru upua!
if.only money by=1s
I wish I had money!

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 07 Jan 2015 14:49
by Prinsessa
The distinction between wanting (DESIDERATIVE) and needing (OBLIGATIVE) is slightly blurred and somewhat different from English in Vanga, and has much to do with the nature, or importance, of the goal for which something is wanted/needed.

In the case of the sentences of this TC, the first two may or may not both be covered by the desiderative. Consider the following:

alıuqanzı
I need / must have money (it is very important or I might be screwed in some regard)
a-l<i>ʷk-ъ-anət-ʲə
CONT-money<PROX>.V-NVL-OBL-1


alıuqılzı
I want / need money (not as important)
a-l<i>ʷk-ъ-ələt-ʲə
CONT-money<PROX>.V-NVL-DES-1


The first one might be used when one really needs money, for example to pay the rents lest one wishes to be thrown out on the street. The latter is for less imperative things; perhaps one would really like money for a new car, but it's not so much important for one's well-being as an itching desire to get a little present for oneself.

The last one is simple:

alıuqımı
I do not have money
a -l<i>ʷk-ъ-ʲə=m=Ø-ʲə
CONT-money<PROX>.V-NVL-1=NEG=AUX-1

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 29 Jan 2015 00:02
by k1234567890y
:con: Lonmai Luna

Romanization: se ine tadi
Interlinear: 1.SG need money
English: I need money.

Romanization: se daler pabel tadi
Interlinear: 1.SG want.to have money
English: I want(to have) money.

Romanization: se daler patelo tadi
Interlinear: 1.SG want.to get money
English: I want to get money.

Romanization: se irano tadi
Interlinear: 1.SG lack money
English: I lack money.

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 29 Jan 2015 14:38
by clawgrip
:con:Yabushionese

(我は)錢が要る。
(Wai fa) zeni ga iru.

(1 TOP) money SBJ be.needed
I need money.

(我は)錢が欲し。
(Wai fa) zeni ga hoshi.

(1 TOP) money SBJ be.wanted
I want money.

(我は)錢が無し。
(Wai fa) zeni ga nashi.

(1 TOP) money SBJ be.absent
I lack money.

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 29 Jan 2015 18:49
by Thakowsaizmu
I need money.
I want money.
I lack money.

:tan:
Nahitaji pesa
/nɑ.hi.'tɑ.ʄi 'pɛ.sɑ/
na-hitaji pesa
PRES-need CL5_money


Nataka pesa
/nɑ.'tɑ.kɑ 'pɛ.sɑ/
na-taka pesa
PRES-want CL5_money


Sina pesa
/'si.nɑ 'pɛ.sɑ/
si-na pesa
1psNEG-have CL5_money

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 29 Jan 2015 20:40
by Iyionaku
:con: Yélian

Re panai ero.
[rɛ ˈpaːn͡aɪ ˈɛro]
1SG need-1SG money
I need money.

Re ivabai ero.
[rɛ ˈiːvab͡aɪ ˈɛro]
1SG want-have-1SG money
I want money.

Re disai/cibai ero.
[rɛ ˈdiːs͡aɪ / ˈkiːb͡ai ˈɛro]
1SG lack-1SG / NEG-have money
I lack money.

Re: Wants and needs

Posted: 30 Jan 2015 03:15
by k1234567890y
:con: Urban Basanawa

text: 吾要あるふ金
text(spaced): 吾 要あるふ 金
pronunciation: /ik bə'darf 'gelt/
romanization: ik bedarf geld
interlinear: 1.SG need-1.SG.PRES money
English: I need money.

text: 吾欲いる゚金
text(spaced): 吾 欲いる゚ 金
pronunciation: /ik 'wil 'gelt/
romanization: ik will geld
interlinear: 1.SG want-1.SG.PRES money
English: I want money.

text: 吾ね持う゚金
text(spaced): 吾 ね 持う゚ 金
pronunciation: /ik ne 'ha:f 'gelt/
romanization: ik ne have geld
interlinear: 1.SG NEG have-1.SG.PRES money
English: I lack money./I don't have money