[Game] Another of those historical linguistics games!

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Ralph
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[Game] Another of those historical linguistics games!

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As I've mentioned elsewhere, I've been working on a proto-language for some of my conlangs, and thought it might be fun to put up a cognate set as one of these historical linguistics challenges!

Here's the map:

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It's worth noting that there are two variants of this word in the proto-language: one with a derivational suffix and one without.

Enjoy!
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The map is too big on my screen. Could you scale it down a bit?
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brandrinn wrote:The map is too big on my screen. Could you scale it down a bit?
I'll see what I can do!
Edit: It should be a better size now.
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I think the two forms of the proto-word are *gʷeʦu and *gʷeʦume.

The family originated in the southern landmass, and then spread over the islands, with a proto-islands *eʦume.
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I'm leaning more toward /c/ as the middle consonant.
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taylorS wrote:I think the two forms of the proto-word are *gʷeʦu and *gʷeʦume.

The family originated in the southern landmass, and then spread over the islands, with a proto-islands *eʦume.
Pretty close, but not quite there yet.
brandrinn wrote:I'm leaning more toward /c/ as the middle consonant.
In which case you're leaning in the right direction! [:)]

I'd be interested to see how you'd group the languages into families too.
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Proto-Yellow: *ˈetomi
Proto-Red: *eˈtome
Proto-Purple: *eˈʦome
Proto-Green: eˈsome
Proto-Pink: ˈɡʷiʦumu
Proto-Blue: ˈɡʷiku

*ˈɡʷiku(mu)
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taylorS wrote:Proto-Yellow: *ˈetomi
Proto-Red: *eˈtome
Proto-Purple: *eˈʦome
Proto-Green: eˈsome
Proto-Pink: ˈɡʷiʦumu
Proto-Blue: ˈɡʷiku

*ˈɡʷiku(mu)
You're groupings are mostly right, except for ˈeːme and ˈemːe. Some of the groups can be linked together into higher level groupings though.

As for the reconstructions, *eˈtome for Proto-Red and *eˈsome for Proto-Green are correct. The others are close, but not quite right yet. You might want to re-think the initial consonant, for example (hopefully the tones in three of the coastal languages in the blue group might provide a clue).
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