Tense in embedded clauses

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Tense in embedded clauses

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How do your conlangs handle tense in embedded clauses?

:eng:

He said he was sick.

:con: Wakeu

Ko inni a ki nge kolo.
[ko ˈinːi aː kiː ŋə ˈkoːlo]
PFV say ERG 3s COMPL sick

No tense marker is needed in the embedded clause.
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Senkok manasinïsužïnok.
/sɛŋkok mɑnɑsinɪsuʒɪnok/
3sg.say.PST 3sg.diseased_be.PST.

The "to be" verb can be attached to pretty much everything and then be conjugated just as any other verb.
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:eng:
He said he was well.

:con: Zidhgebzhail - Tense marking on embedded clauses is mandatory, and alters meaning.

Past Tense

zy gAizhlon [hyt] zy ga-shierruif
Spoiler:
z-y g-Aizhlo-n [hyt] z-y g-[h]a-shierr-uif
3-ABS.SG.M PST-say-SIMPLE [REL_GENERIC] 3-ABS.SG.M PST-COP1-good-ADJ
He said [that] he was well (at a implicitly specific time before our conversation).

zy gAizhlon [hyt] zy gla-shierruif
Spoiler:
z-y g-Aizhlo-n [hyt] z-y g-l-[h]a-shierr-uif
3-ABS.SG.M PST-say-SIMPLE [REL_GENERIC] 3-ABS.SG.M PST-PRFT-COP1-good-ADJ
He said [that] he had been well (up until our conversation).

Present Tense

zy gAizhlon [hyt] zy ha-shierruif
Spoiler:
z-y g-Aizhlo-n [hyt] z-y ha-shierr-uif
3-ABS.SG.M PST-say-SIMPLE [REL_GENERIC] 3-ABS.SG.M COP1-good-ADJ
He said [that] he is well (generally speaking).

zy gAizhlon [hyt] zy la-shierruif
Spoiler:
z-y g-Aizhlo-n [hyt] z-y l-[h]a-shierr-uif
3-ABS.SG.M PST-say-SIMPLE [REL_GENERIC] 3-ABS.SG.M PRFT-COP1-good-ADJ
He said [that] he has been well (generally speaking and specifically extending into the past).

Future tense and tense-within-tense permutations are also possible.
Life's a bitch, then you die.

Zidhgebzhail Orthography
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:con:Pazmat:

Matzjo na Stol ganzni zjo.
[speak-PST-3RD.SING.M REL 3RD.SING.M.ERG sickness-ADJ PST-3RD.SING.M]

You gotta have the tense marking in both clauses.
Nūdenku waga honji ma naku honyasi ne ika-ika ichamase!
female-appearance=despite boy-voice=PAT hold boy-youth=TOP very be.cute-3PL
Honyasi zō honyasi ma naidasu.
boy-youth=AGT boy-youth=PAT love.romantically-3S
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