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Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 22 Oct 2013 19:58
by Ossicone
How could I miss doing my favorite test sentence for so long?!

:usa: Why are you hitting yourself?

:con: Uskra: Mis satikatasa ta'i?
mis sa-tik-at-asa ta'i
Q.why 2A-give-2P-NPST hit

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 22 Oct 2013 20:19
by Uzhdarchios
:con: Mîrkšam:

Urêâkćâ ćurh shejtik?
[uɾøʔɶkˈcʷɶ cʷurx ˈsxejdik]
U-rê-âkćâ ćurh shejt-ik?
2-SGV-[IND-PRS-IPFV]strike Q.why REFL-ACC

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 22 Oct 2013 21:30
by Xing
:con: Wakeu

Tekere a ngo rei mwarui?
hit ERG 2s REFL why
/ʧeːkeːɾe aː ŋoːu̯ ɾeːi̯ mˠaɾui̯/

Tekere a ngo rei me mwea pare?
hot ERG 2s REFL ABL what cause
/ʧeːkeːɾe aː ŋoːu̯ ɾeːi̯ mʲeː mˠeːa pʲaːɾe/

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 22 Oct 2013 23:01
by prettydragoon
:con: Rireinutire

ta huno hutina yoñi orokayo:
/tɑ ˈhuno ˈhutinɑ ˈyoŋi ˈoɹoˌkɑyo/
2S.NOM ones.own self-PTV why.Q hit-PRS-Q
Why are you hitting yourself?

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 14 Nov 2013 19:51
by Chagen
:con: Heocg:

Smut dah hreotiz?
what.DAT 2SG.NOM hit.PST-REFL

The Heocg word for "why" is just the word for "what" in the Dative.

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 15 Nov 2013 03:28
by thetha
:nav: Navajo
ha'át'íísh biniiyé na'adinílts'in?
ha'át'íí=sh b-niiyé ná-ád-ni-ni-l-ts'in
reason=Q 3-bc.of.it ITER-REFL-THEME-2S-CLF-hit.IMPF

CLF here marks so called 'verbal classifiers'. These usually describe the voice of a verb, we have -l- here because this verb is reflexive.

:nga: Yoruba
Kí ló dé tí o ń lù ara ẹ?
what COP=3S occur REL 2S PROG hit body 2S.POSS

:que: Cuzco Quechua
Imarayku maqakushanki?
why hit-REFL-PROG-2S.SUBJ

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 15 Nov 2013 03:44
by Thakowsaizmu
:tan: Unajipiga kwa nini?
/u.nɑ.ɗʒi.'pi.ɠɑ kʷɑ 'ni.ni/
u-na-ji-piga kwa nini
2ps-PRES-refl-hit for what

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 15 Nov 2013 05:16
by Pirka
:rus: Зачем ты себя бьёшь?
зачем ты себя бь-ёшь
why 2.SG RELF.ACC hit.IPFV-2.SG.NPT

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 15 Nov 2013 07:20
by Maraxxus
Valitasoy:
Erþi muhr ʃoq qinaʒ?
Erþi muhr=ʃoq qin-aʒ?
why REFL=2SG hit-2SG

[ɛrˈði ˈmuh̥rsɔqːinɑz]
Why are you hitting yourself?

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 15 Nov 2013 14:31
by Serena
:con: [Gadīl]

MW KHNH TH DWL TH SN?
Mū kāna tā dawĕl tă san?
What Thing PN.2s Hit-PRES PN.2s For

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 15 Nov 2013 22:29
by Dormouse559
:con: Untitled:

Uph uj paarnatheel?
[ˈupʰ uj ˈpaːrnaˌtʰɛːl]
2SG REFL hit-DEF-about-reason

Uph uj paarnatheel lam uph keei.
[ˈupʰ uj ˈpaːrnaˌtʰɛːl lam ˈupʰ ˈkɛːi̯]
2SG REFL hit-DEF-about-reason NEC 2SG speak

The first version is an idiomatic shortening of the second. A literal translation of the second version would be, "You must speak about your hitting yourself, regarding the reason."

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 16 Nov 2013 10:52
by DesEsseintes
:con: Nınuıntı:

Puntaımıına ıamuut?
[pʊndemɪnɐ jɐmuːt̚]
punta-ımı=ına ıa-muut
hit-REFL=2s to-what
Why are you hitting yourself?/What are you hitting yourself for?

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 18 Nov 2013 00:56
by Imralu
:con: Ahu:

Uá i tsahais u tiz?
uá i tsa-a-iso u ti-za
1s PRED strike.AG-OBL-self ADV because.of-what

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 21 Nov 2013 13:20
by Lao Kou
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Öçek las chelöi nzo hödvagakh?
[øˈɕɛk las tʃɛˈløj nˈzo høˈdvagax]
2SG-NOM AUX.PRES.REFL why on.earth-ADV hit-INTERR
Why are you hitting yourself?

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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 21 Nov 2013 14:32
by Creyeditor
:deu: German
Warum haust du dich (selber)?
warum hau-st du dich (selber)
why hit-2.SG.PRS.IND 2.SG.NOM 2.SG.ACC (REFL)

Why are you hitting yourself?

Warum schlägst du dich (selbst)?
warum schag/i-st du dich (selbst)
why beat/-2.SG.PRS.IND 2.SG.NOM 2.SG.ACC (REFL)

Why are you hitting yourself?

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 21 Nov 2013 18:15
by Dormouse559
It needs to be more Bible-y. [:P] How about this: "And the angel said unto him, Stop hitting thyself! But he could not stop, for he was hitting him with his own hands."
Ah, ambiguous pronoun usage. Gotta love it.

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 21 Nov 2013 21:34
by Omzinesý
A new Vtain translation, at last!

Why are you hitting yourself?

Ham päkodäni stain?
ham p<ä>kod-än-i stain
PRON.SG2.INTR <ANTIP>hit-PASS-PRS why

INTR - The intranstitive is the case of intransitive subject in Vtain.
Reflexive is formed by adding both antipassive and passive affixes.


The intensive stem, with the strong mutation, pkod -> pkot would mean 'to beat'.

Why are you beating yourself?

Ham päkodäni stain?
ham p<ä>kot-än-i stain
PRON.SG2.INTR <ANTIP>beat-PASS-PRS why

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 22 Nov 2013 04:56
by Lao Kou
Omzinesý wrote:Why are you hitting yourself?

Ham päkodäni stain?
ham p<ä>kod-än-i stain
PRON.SG2.INTR <ANTIP>hit-PASS-PRS why

Why are you beating yourself?

Ham päkodäni stain?
ham p<ä>kot-än-i stain
PRON.SG2.INTR <ANTIP>beat-PASS-PRS why
Is there a difference between "hitting" and "beating" in the surface utterance?

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 22 Nov 2013 16:02
by Omzinesý
Lao Kou wrote:
Omzinesý wrote:Why are you hitting yourself?

Ham päkodäni stain?
ham p<ä>kod-än-i stain
PRON.SG2.INTR <ANTIP>hit-PASS-PRS why

Why are you beating yourself?

Ham päkodäni stain?
ham p<ä>kot-än-i stain
PRON.SG2.INTR <ANTIP>beat-PASS-PRS why
Is there a difference between "hitting" and "beating" in the surface utterance?
Hupsanssaa, it was quite late when I wrote that.
The strong grade should appear before the TAM-suffix.

Ham päkodänti stain?
ham p<ä>kod-än-STRG-i stain
PRON.SG2.INTR <ANTIP>hit-PASS-INTENS-PRS why

INTENS - intensive stem
STRG - strong grade

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 15 Feb 2014 16:43
by Bagliun Edar
:usa: Why are you hitting yourself?

:con: Obulamga
Ayienjoimilemdi?
[ˈaʎiɛnʒɔimilˌɛmdi]
a-yien-jo-imil-emdi
PROG-hit-IND.POL-2SG.REFL-why

I used to have a grammatical interrogative mood. I dropped it. Now questions are marked by clitics.