Lexicon milestones and discussion of lexicon growth

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Arayaz wrote: 28 Mar 2024 01:40
Khemehekis wrote: 27 Mar 2024 23:02
Arayaz wrote: 26 Mar 2024 14:52 Wait, each one has *one* Toki Pona definition? I thought the person was just a hardcore Toki Pona fan and defined all their words in Toki Pona for fun. If it's a randomly generated relex, congratulations revoked. I suggest we update the requirements of the FrathWiki page.
Any idea for how to rewrite the criteria so as to exclude Mmavvii?
One could simply disallow relexes. I honestly feel that Classical Yiklamu shouldn't count either.

Perhaps one could require distinctive grammar of the language; i.e. something doesn't count if it's only a lexicon/wordlist. (Could be too extreme?) Or the rule related to unmodified computer-generated outputs could be extended.
Hmmmm . . . I have an idea. Maybe disqualify computer-generated relexes of a wordlist/vocabulary if they are created for the express purpose of having huge lexica? That'd disqualify Mmavvii, and it would keep someone from piggybacking onto my Kankonian lexicon to create a conlang with even more words than Kankonian.
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On February 26, 2024, I reached the 85,000-word milestone, meaning I would be obligated to reach the 87,500-word milestone by February 26, 2025.

Well, I've already reached it. I added all the words from my Mensinghi file to my Kankonian dictionary (well, I added their Kankonian translations, but you know what I mean), and while I was at it, I crossed the 87,500-word mark with Lama Lamik, meaning "Lama Laman", as in from Lama Lama, one of the 53 provinces of Mensinghi.

Kankonian now has words for things like "king consperm" and "queen conove" -- yes, and "lesbian consort".
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Today I came up with the concept of tyashusial orientation for the Lehola Galaxy. Tyashus is the Ciladian word for "race", and it's used in modern Kankonian to mean what species of sapient someone is (human, Grey, Domehead, ilti, lef, wama, etc.) (The Kankonian word for "race", yaramoshi, translates as "island-ancestry" = continent-ancestry and means race like Caucasian, Black, Asian, etc. for Terrans. Shtakuf means a race in fantasy fiction, so the shtakufes in Tolkien were Elves, Dwarves, Orcs, Trolls, etc.) So while sexual orientation refers to what gender someone is attracted to, tyashusial orientation refers to what tyashus someone is attracted to. Someone who is attracted to humans (whether s/he is human him- or herself or not) is anthroposexual, someone who is attracted to Greys is delphimosexual, someone who is attracted to Domeheads is domocephalosexual, and so on.

I created over 100 words for the various tyashusial orientations:
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anthroposexual (sexually attracted to humans) diskhaili
afimosexual (sexually attracted to Afim) afimkhaili
airkosexial (sexually attracted to Airk) airkkhaili
akartosexual (sexually attracted to akart) akartkhaili
albhikarosexual (sexually attracted to albhikars) albikarkhaili
alcohbatasexual (sexually attracted to alcohbata) alkokhbatakhaili
gruualicosexual (sexually attracted to al-gruualix) algrualikskhaili
an~akosexual (sexually attracted to an~aks) anyakkhaili
anthropitosexual (sexually attracted to Anthropitos) dodulikhaili
apiilosexual (sexually attracted to apiil) apilkhaili
azhweasexual (sexually attracted to azhweas) azhweakhaili
bansakosexual (sexually attracted to bansaks) bansakkhaili
bevgezisexual (sexually attracted to bevgezis) bevgezikhaili
bhurosexual (sexually attracted to bhur) burkhaili
biwisexual (sexually attracted to biwis) biwikhaili
bulboptosexual (sexually attracted to Bulbops) shatengkhaili
byssatasexual (sexually attracted to Byssata) imiasikhaili
chaisosexual (sexually attracted to chais) khaiskhaili
chakosexual (sexually attracted to chak) tshakkhaili
Corteosexual (sexually attracted to Corteum) korteumkhaili
dargosexual (sexually attracted to dargons) puhukhaili
detromosexual (sexually attracted to detroms) detromkhaili
dinoidosexual (sexually attracted to dinoids) oorpeidankhaili
dinosauroidosexual (sexually attracted to Russell Men) khowiykhaili
domocephalosexual (sexually attracted to Domeheads) albazhingokhaili
dorsayosexual (sexually attracted to Dorsay) dorsaikhaili
dracosexual (sexually attracted to dracos) thamortankhaili
driesosexual (sexually attracted to Dries) drieskhaili
egarotosexual (sexually attracted to Egarot) egarotkhaili
elffafosexual (sexually attracted to elffaf) elffafkhaili
manoukosexual (sexually attracted to El-Manouk) elmanukkhaili
elnarosexual (sexually attracted to elnar) elnarkhaili
Emertherosexual (sexually attracted to Emerther) emertherkhaili
Ethnasexual (sexually attracted to Ethna) ethnakhaili
fhaangosexual (sexually attracted to fhaang) fhhangkhaili
ginthosexual (sexually attracted to ginth) ginthkhaili
ginvosexual (sexually attracted to Ginvo) ginvokhaili
glomosexual (sexually attracted to glomas) glomoskhaili
delphimosexual (sexually attracted to Greys) mentelkhaili
gwuelatlosexual (sexually attracted to gwuelatls) gwulatlakhaili
hajonosexual (sexually attracted to hajons) hadzhonkhaili
hexamantosexual (sexually attracted to hexamantoids) sekhgegavkhaili
homatosexual (sexually attracted to homa) homakhaili
hubridosexual (sexually attracted to hu-brids) taineneshkhaili
icosadactylosexual (sexually attracted to icosadactyls) hekhioblatkhaili
iguanoidosexual (sexually attracted to iguanoids) budorghkhaili
iltisexual (sexually attracted to iltis) iltikhaili
insectoidosexual (sexually attracted to insectoids) oorpeksiskhaili
jefokosexual (sexually attracted to Jefok) dzhefokkhaili
kaleniasexual (sexually attracted to Kalenia) kaleniakhaili
kektosexual (sexually attracted to kektes) kektaskhaili
kitpachosexual (sexually attracted to kitpach) kitpatshkhaili
klaeptosexual (sexually attracted to klaeptou) klapskhaili
kyuphiosexual (sexually attracted to kyuphi) kyuphikhaili
langosexual (sexually attracted to Lang) langkhaili
lapanosexual (sexually attracted to lapans) lapankhaili
lefosexual (sexually attracted to lef) lefkhaili
leonoidosexual (sexually attracted to leonoids) hafnakhaili
sauranthroposexual (sexually attracted to Lizard People) thimukhaili
maitrosexual (sexually attracted to Maitre) zashtaikhaili
mantoidosexual (sexually attracted to mantoids) gegavkhaili
matraxosexual (sexually attracted to Matrax) matrakskhaili
selenoposexual (sexually attracted to Moon-eyes) psoupokhaili
kayphikosexual (sexually attracted to Moovianthan-Kayphik) aswoldokhaili
mophmonosexual (sexually attracted to mophmons) mophmonkhaili
nilosexual (sexually attracted to nilas) nilakhaili
nukosexual (sexually attracted to nuk) nukkhaili
orelosexual (sexually attracted to Orela) orelakhaili
pachamosexual (sexually attracted to pachams) patshamkhaili
pacwaoology (sexually attracted to pacwao) patshwaukhaili
psittacanthroposexual (sexually attracted to parrotpeople) klotzabmeyeszkhaili
pynosexual (sexually attracted to pynas) punakhaili
re-bridosexual (sexually attracted to re-brids) zaneneshkhaili
erythrosexual (sexually attracted to Reds) gudumkhaili
redanosexual (sexually attracted to Redan) redankhaili
reptosexual (sexually attracted to reptoids) zavithiykhaili
ritonisexual (sexually attracted to Ritoni) ritonikhaili
sapiofernosexual (sexually attracted to sapioferns) zaenbuktukhaili
shamptbhalasexual (sexually attracted to Shamptbhala) shamptbalakhaili
shuglosexual (sexually attracted to shugls) shuge*khaili
sochitlosexual (sexually attracted to sochitls) sotshitlakhaili
spemechosexual (sexually attracted to spemeches) spemetshkhaili
astroteknosexual (sexually attracted to starchildren) tzinenkhaili
stromosexual (sexually attracted to Strom) stromkhaili
acromelanosexual (sexually attracted to Tall Blacks) skogaskhailli
acroleucosexual (sexually attracted to Tall Whites) armanakhaili
tameposexual (sexually attracted to tamepo) tamepokhaili
tannosexual (sexually attracted to Tans) moumongkhaili
tengrisexual (sexually attracted to Tengri-Tengri) tengrikhaili
tetranantosexual (sexually attracted to tetramantoids) khalgegavkhaili
thoemosexual (sexually attracted to thoems) thoermkhaili
tlokwosexual (sexually attracted to tlokwa) tlokwakhaili
tsendosexual (sexually attracted to tsends) tzendkhaili
turoghosexual (sexually attracted to turoghs) turoghkhaili
vlchekosexual (sexually attracted to vlcheks) voultshekkhaili
vulonosexual (sexually attracted to vulons) vulonkhaili
wamasexual (sexually attracted to wama) wamakhaili
wiyuposexual (sexually attracted to wiyups) wiyupkhaili
xazhoeosexual (sexually attracted to xazhoes) ghazhoerkhaili
xerosexual (sexually attracted to Xer) kserkhaili
xpotzosexual (sexually attracted to Xpotz) imnilikkhaili
yachisexual (sexually attracted to yachi) yatshikhaili
zesmanosexual (sexually attracted to zesmans) zesmankhaili
zijasexual (sexually attracted to zija) zidzhakhaili
While I was making this list, tlokwakhaili, the word for "tlokwosexual", became word #87,654 in Kankonian, so I hit another milestone. Yay!

The next few milestones coming up are 88,888; 90,000; 91,011; and 91,592 (the point at which Kankonian will overtake Classical Yiklamu in size).
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Khemehekis wrote: 12 Apr 2024 05:32
Interesting. Are interspecies relationships uniformly accepted in the Lehola Galaxy, or are there some cultures where they're frowned upon, or forbidden?
Also, congrats in hitting your milestone! I can't imagine hitting 2000 words, let alone tens of thousands. Your work is really impressive.
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What's special about 91,011?
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Arayaz wrote: 12 Apr 2024 16:50 What's special about 91,011?
9 10 11
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Flavia wrote: 12 Apr 2024 17:04
Arayaz wrote: 12 Apr 2024 16:50 What's special about 91,011?
9 10 11
Ah, I missed that. Thanks for clarifying [:)]
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Flavia wrote: 12 Apr 2024 11:55
Khemehekis wrote: 12 Apr 2024 05:32
Interesting. Are interspecies relationships uniformly accepted in the Lehola Galaxy, or are there some cultures where they're frowned upon, or forbidden?
Really socially liberal cultures like the Kankonian or Shaleyan wouldn't have any problem with them . . . the galaxy as a whole when it comes to tyashusial orientation is much like a macrocosm of the U.S., circa 2000, on sexual orientation. Some people believe it's shockingly immoral to have an interspecies relationship, others believe it's really backwards and fascist NOT to be accepting of interspecies relationships.

Some conservative Lehola cultures, such as the Kebsabhazian, view other tyashas as freaks of nature. So a conservative Kebsabhazian father discovering his pacham daughter is dating a Grey or human boy would be like a conservative American father discovering his daughter is dating a punk with three septum rings and green hair.
Also, congrats in hitting your milestone! I can't imagine hitting 2000 words, let alone tens of thousands. Your work is really impressive.
Awwwwww, thanks! And you were right on target about the significance of the number 91,011.
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Spiders, Vosem Chart users, pianists, and Thomas Jefferson rejoice: I have just reached word #88,888 in Kankonian! My word was shuyeslavambio, meaning "architexture". It comes from shuyes (across) and lavambio (work, as in a work of art), since an architexture is a theme that spans an artist's entire oeuvre.
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My conlang, Hi'im, just reached 50 words! 50th word is ten̆ /teŋ/, which means "world".
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TBPO wrote: 26 Apr 2024 18:16 My conlang, Hi'im, just reached 50 words! 50th word is ten̆ /teŋ/, which means "world".
Heh, I remember when I first saw the title of your Hi'im thread. I misread it as "Hi, I'm a conlang!"

Surprised ten̆ is the fiftieth word and not the tenth word.

Anyway, congratulations. It looks as if you notched your first milestone. May you have many more: 100 words, 200, 300, 500, 1,000, 1,200, 1,500, 2,000, and beyond.





In any event, I reached 90,000 words in Kankonian a few minutes ago. That's ninety thousand!

Word #90,000, was Pauti*uthis, the name for a city in the Kankonian continent of Povoi. The asterisk represents a velar lateral, and in "good" publications I write it as an L with a slash through it. Pauti*uthis is a kind of linguistically-mixed name for a city, like the English word "television". Pauti is the Povoian word for "tapir", while *uthis is the Kankonian word for "city" (Kankonian being a descendant of the ancient Tze*ethik language from the continent of Hegheos).

If possession is nine tenths of the law, I am being possessed by the drive to beat Mmavvii, being nine-tenths of the way to the 100,000-word mark. Not to toot my own horn, but Kankonian is way more interesting than that computer-generated Toki Pona relex that Imjustadudeontheinternet whipped up.

I celebrated my milestone by drinking an oat-milk dark chocolate brownie Frappuccino!
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