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中文 | Mandarin Conversation Thread
CBB有学中文的人吗?我的中文佷坏,我要说和某人。
我没有教室的课。我有从北京中国人的朋友,教中文。
我没有教室的课。我有从北京中国人的朋友,教中文。
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Re: 这练习中文
+1Thakowsaizmu wrote:我要学中文。
Maybe it's time to actually give it ago. Unless it gets in the way of me learning Japanese.
At least I already recognize 我 and 中文. Yay!
Re: 这练习中文
Then I guess I should give it a go sometime then :-).
(Sorry for not writing anything in Chinese :oops:.)
(Sorry for not writing anything in Chinese :oops:.)
Re: 这练习中文
Sorry for hijacking this thread once again, but could you recommend some good Japanese and Chinese resources? I'm always on the lookout for some new and good resources :-D.
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Re: 这练习中文
Oh, umm...
Get a Dictionary. A pocket dictionary. Chinese grammar is really easy, and so most of your time will be spent on vocabulary
(or tones but that's a whole nother...thing). Next I would suggest getting a book dedicated to the characters. Reading & Writing Chinese is really good. I don't have it, but I want it. It's apparently based on the same system of the Reading & Writing Japanese book I have, which is excellent.
As for coursebooks, take your pick. A grammar might be helpful too, though to be honest, like I said, Chinese is so incredibly isolating that you don't need barely any grammar.
I don't know what sort of resources they have in Sweden though.
Get a Dictionary. A pocket dictionary. Chinese grammar is really easy, and so most of your time will be spent on vocabulary
(or tones but that's a whole nother...thing). Next I would suggest getting a book dedicated to the characters. Reading & Writing Chinese is really good. I don't have it, but I want it. It's apparently based on the same system of the Reading & Writing Japanese book I have, which is excellent.
As for coursebooks, take your pick. A grammar might be helpful too, though to be honest, like I said, Chinese is so incredibly isolating that you don't need barely any grammar.
I don't know what sort of resources they have in Sweden though.
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Re: 这练习中文
I guess I'll just have to look around :-). I used to have a Chinese coursebook, but I have no idea where that went... Oh well. So, since grammar isn't really all too hard to memorise a good dictionary as well as learning to read and write the characters are the things to prioritise? Got ya. And as for tones, since I think I will only focus on reading and writing for now, I'll leave them be for a while
Any good online resources for Chinese grammar then? I'm in a studying mood :-).
EDIT
Nevermind, I found an online dictionary and a few online grammars to keep me busy :-D.
我现在汉语语法学习.
(I have no idea how correct this is, but you've got to start somewhere)
Any good online resources for Chinese grammar then? I'm in a studying mood :-).
EDIT
Nevermind, I found an online dictionary and a few online grammars to keep me busy :-D.
我现在汉语语法学习.
(I have no idea how correct this is, but you've got to start somewhere)
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Re: 这练习中文
That's good, though I would have written 现在我汉语语法学习.我现在汉语语法学习.
(I have no idea how correct this is, but you've got to start somewhere)
Yeah, the dictionary should be your foremost task.
Also, I know you said you wanted to focus on reading, but.......
http://www.shufawest.us/language/tonedrill.html
http://www.shufawest.us/language/dual-tonedrill.html
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Re: 这练习中文
Thanks, I will :-). I think I'll replace Greek with Chinese for my TAC 2011 over at unilang. I have more interest in Chinese than Greek anyway.
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Re: 这练习中文
TAC?
I need to start posting on Unilang. It looks interesting, but I've either been too preoccupied with other think or too timid to just jump right in.
I need to start posting on Unilang. It looks interesting, but I've either been too preoccupied with other think or too timid to just jump right in.
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Total Annihilation Challenge. Yeah, I know what you mean. It's a pretty good place, so once I get in to a good study rhythm I'll start posting there more.
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Re: 这练习中文
*looks it over*
This sounds fun, though I'm not sure I have the mental stamina to do it :S
I'll try it though. For my New Years resolution I promise to spend each day spending at least half an hour studying Chinese or Japanese, and to not go more than 4 days studying one without studying the other.
This sounds fun, though I'm not sure I have the mental stamina to do it :S
I'll try it though. For my New Years resolution I promise to spend each day spending at least half an hour studying Chinese or Japanese, and to not go more than 4 days studying one without studying the other.
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Sounds good. I'll be focusing on Chinese, Japanese and Spanish. At first I was thinking about two hours of active study time per week for each language as well as one hour of passive study (music, TV, etc), but I might have to lower that if it doesn't work out.
Re: 这练习中文
最后有一个人要学中国!
如果你要看电视,你可以去sohu.com看无聊的电视节目
I was raised bilingual but I can't write Chinese well. The Chinese language also has horribly hard pronunciation. The grammer is really easy though.
如果你要看电视,你可以去sohu.com看无聊的电视节目
I was raised bilingual but I can't write Chinese well. The Chinese language also has horribly hard pronunciation. The grammer is really easy though.
Re: 这练习中文
Aw, it's not that bad. The aspiration and retroflex distinctions take a little time for English speakers to develop, and the initial /r/ is tricky, but that's pretty much it. I think people psych themselves out about the tones--I play Where Are Your Keys in Mandarin all the time with people who've never spoken a word of Chinese before, and 90% of people are nailing the tones after the first five minutes.dh3537 wrote:The Chinese language also has horribly hard pronunciation.
3rd-tone sandhi isn't that complicated, I think. The trick is that textbooks will tell you that 3rd tone is a low dipping tone, but that isn't true. It's a low falling tone, always and forever, with two exceptions:
When followed by a pause (including when pronounced in isolation), it's low dipping.
When followed by another 3rd tone syllable, it's high rising.
Have I forgotten anything?
(it/they)
任何事物的发展都是物极必反,否极泰来。
任何事物的发展都是物极必反,否极泰来。
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presidential palace 總統府 : 3-3-3 > 2-2-3Trailsend wrote:When followed by another 3rd tone syllable, it's high rising.
old(former) president 老總統 : 3-3-3 > 3-2-3
And if there exist something like 老總統府, it will be 3-2-2-3.
Another example with every character except 的 in 3rd tone :
我擁有老總統給我的... 3-2-2/3-3-2-3-2-3-n