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Re: Caber Logograms

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Again, no sound-change applier. I'm also hoping I interpreted opipik's sound changes correctly (I still kind of don't know what the section involving the capital Ts and the Ts with macrons really means). Guide to abbreviations:

ONC = Old North Caber
NC = North Caber
ONEC = Old Northeast Caber
NEC = Northeast Caber
OSEC = Old Southeast Caber
SEC = Southeast Caber
OCC = Old Central Caber
CC = Central Caber
OSC = Old South Caber
SC = South Caber
MC = Mute Caber
MCA = Mute Caber A
MCB = Mute Caber B
MCC = Mute Caber C
MCD = Mute Caber D (opipik's language)

behsu [bɛxˈsu] "happy"
> ONC [bɛxˈsu] > NC [pʃu]
> ONEC [bɛxˈsu] > NEC [vɛxˈsəɪ]
> OSEC [bɛxˈsu] > SEC [beˈsɨ]
> OCC [ɛxˈsu] > CC [ɛxˈsu]
> OSC [ˈbɛxsu] > SC [ˈbaxsu]
> MC [ɔ˧˥] > MCA [ɔ˧˥], MCB [ɔ˥], MCC [a˧˥], MCD [ɔ˩˥]

nam "eat"
> ONC [nam] > NC [nã]
> ONEC [nam] > NEC [nam]
> OSEC [nãw] > SEC [nɔ̃]
> OCC [nam] > CC [nam]
> OSC [nab] > SC [nab]
> MC [nam˨] > MCA [na˩], MCB [naw˨], MCC [nɛm˨], MCD [tã˩]

ǧiś "noise, sound"
> ONC [dʑiɕ] > NC [dzis]
> ONEC [ʑiɕ] > NEC [jiɕ]
> OSEC [diɕ] > SEC [diɕ]
> OCC [zix] > CC [zix]
> OSC [dɾiɕ] > SC [dɾiɕ]
> MC [dis˨] > MCA [dis˨], MCB [dis˨], MCC [lis˨], MCD [ĩs˩]

tac "chisel, carve"
> ONC [tak] > NC [tak]
> ONEC [tak] > NEC [ak]
> OSEC [tak] > SEC [tak]
> OCC [tak] > CC [tak]
> OSC [dɔk] > SC [dɔk]
> MC [tak˨] > MCA [taˀ˨], MCB [tat˨], MCC [tɛk˨], MCD [θax˩]

śuśur "grass"
> ONC [ɕuɕ] > NC [sus]
> ONEC [ɕuˈʑul] > NEC [ɕəɪˈjəɪl]
> OSEC [ɕɨˈʑɨl] > SEC [ɕɨˈʑɨn]
> OCC [xuˈxuɾ] > CC [uˈxu]
> OSC [ˈʑuɕɾu] > SC [ˈjuɕɾu]
> MC [ɲu˨ˈsu˧˥] > MCA [ndzu˧˥], MCB [əˈnsu˥], MCC [ɲɔ˨ˈsɔ˧˥], MCD [cu˩ˈsu˩˥]

an "drive (animals, e.g. cattle)"
> ONC [an] > NC [ã]
> ONEC [an] > NEC [an]
> OSEC [ãɾ] > SEC [ãɾ]
> OCC [an] > CC [aŋ]
> OSC [na] > SC [nɔ]
> MC [an˨] > MCA [a˩], MCB [an˨], MCC [ɛŋ˨], MCD [ã˩]

ap "stab"
> ONC [ap] > NC [ap]
> ONEC [ap] > NEC [ap]
> OSEC [ap] > SEC [ap]
> OCC [af] > CC [a]
> OSC [ap] > SC [ap]
> MC [ap˨] > MCA [aˀ˨], MCB [ap˨], MCC [ɛp˨], MCD [af˩]

basar "carve, whittle"
> ONC [bas] > NC [bas]
> ONEC [baˈzɔl] > NEC [vaˈɾɔl]
> OSEC [baˈzal] > SEC [baˈɾan]
> OCC [aˈzal] > CC [aˈzal]
> OSC [ˈbasɾa] > SC [ˈbasɾɔ]
> MC [wah˧˥] > MCA [wɔ˧˥], MCB [ɔ˥], MCC [ɛ˦˥], MCD [wa˩˧]

ćo "flower"
> ONC [tɕɔ] > NC [tsɔ]
> ONEC [ɕɔ] > NEC [ɕɔ]
> OSEC [tɔ] > SEC [to]
> OCC [xɔ] > CC [ɔ]
> OSC [dɾɔ] > SC [dɾɔ]
> MC [tɔ˨] > MCA [tɔ˨], MCB [tɔ˨], MCC [ta˨], MCD [θɔ˩]

bes "pick, choose"
> ONC [bɛs] > NC [bɛs]
> ONEC [bɛs] > NEC [vɛs]
> OSEC [bɛs] > SEC [bes]
> OCC [ɛs] > CC [ɛs] ([ɛ] before /l ɾ/)
> OSC [bɛs] > SC [bɛs]
> WE [ɔ˧˥] > MCA [ɔ˧˥], MCB [ɔ˥], MCC [a˧˥], MCD [ɔ˩˥]

oc "choke (transitive)"
> ONC [ɔk] > NC [uk]
> ONEC [ɔk] > NEC [ɔk]
> OSEC [ɔk] > SEC [ok]
> OCC [ɔk] > CC [ɔk]
> OSC [ɔk] > SC [ɔk]
> MC [ɔk˨] > MCA [ɔˀ˨], MCB [ɔt˨], MCC [ak˨], MCD [ɔx˩]

ơ "sit (somewhere)"
> ONC [ə] > NC [ə]
> ONEC [ə] > NEC [əɪ]
> OSEC [ə] > SEC [ə]
> OCC [ɛ] > CC [ɛ]
> OSC [ə] > SC [a]
> MC [ə˨] > MCA [ə˨], MCB [ɛ˨], MCC [ə˨], MCD [ə˩]

caơ "sky"
> ONC [kaˈə] > NC [kə]
> ONEC [kaˈə] > NEC [xaˈəɪ]
> OSEC [ka] > SEC [ka]
> OCC [kaˈɛ] > CC [kaj]
> OSC [kaˈə] > SC [gaˈa]
> MC [ka˦] > MCA [kɔ˦], MCB [ka˦], MCC [kɛ˦], MCD [xa˥]

tastanơ "pick (fruit)"
> ONC [tastãˈɔ̃] > NC [tasˈtɔ̃]
> ONEC [tastaˈnə] > NEC [astaˈnəɪ]
> OSEC [tasˈtãɾ] > SEC [tasˈtãɾ]
> OCC [tastaˈnɛ] > CC [tastaˈnɛ]
> OSC [dasˈtan] > [dasˈna]
> MC [ta˧˩ta˨nɔ˨] > MCA [taz˦˧ˈnɔ˨], MCB [tat˦˨əˈnɔ˨], MCC [tɛ˧˩tɛ˨ˈna˨], MCD [θɛ˥˩θɛ̃˩ˈʔɔ˩]

hac "choke (intransitive)"
> ONC [xak] > NC [ʃak]
> ONEC [xak] > NEC [xak]
> OSEC [xak] > SEC [hak]
> OCC [xak] > CC [ak]
> OSC [ɣɔk] > SC [ɣɔk]
> MC [ŋak˨] > MCA [ŋaˀ˨], MCB [nat˨], MCC [ŋɛk˨], MCD [ãx˩]

sar "sad"
> ONC [sa] > NC [sa]
> ONEC [sɔl] > NEC [sɔl]
> OSEC [sal] > SEC [san]
> OCC [saɾ] > CC [sa]
> OSC [zɾa] > SC [zɾɔ]
> MC [na˧˥] > MCA [na˧˥], MCB [na˥], MCC [nɛ˧˥], MCD [ã˩˥]
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CC = Common Caber
CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
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Re: Caber Logograms

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Your sound changes to MCD were bad, here's the outcome I got:
Spoiler:
ɔ˩˥
na˩m
di˩s
ta˩k
ɲu˩ˈsu˩˥
a˩n
a˩p
wa˩˥h
tɔ˩
ɔ˩˥
ɔ˩k
ə˩
ka˥
ta˥˩ta˩nɔ˩
ŋa˩k
na˩˥

-->

ɔ˩˥
tã˩
ni˩s
θa˧˩
cu˩ˈsu˩˥
ã˩
a˧˩
wa˧˥
θɔ˩
ɔ˩˥
ɔ˧˩
ə˩
ça˥
θa˥˩θa˩tɔ˩
ka˧˩
ta˩˥
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Re: Caber Logograms

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Thank you for the corrections!
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CC = Common Caber
CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
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Re: Caber Logograms

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Top row: rasa "wide", ơngơ "tall, long", baw "vomit", ići "chew"
Second row: bim "here, hither", amwoz "there, thither", sưr "there, yon(der)", pue "spit"
Third row: ǧac "up", "down", cưp "left", aćir "right"
Bottom row: dơr "tail", ưz "blood", darơ "to, toward", ascoro "(away) from"

Again, no sound-change applier used, so these are subject to revision:

rasa [ɾaˈsa] "wide"
> ONC [as] > NC [as]
> ONEC [lɨˈza] > NEC [ləɪˈɾa]
> OSEC [laˈza] > SEC [naˈɾa]
> OCC [ɾaˈsa] > CC [ɾaˈsa]
> OSC [ɾaz] > SC [ɾaz]
> MC [na˦] > MCA [na˦], MCB [na˦], MCC [nɛ˦], MCD [na˥]

ơngơ [ənˈgə] "tall, long"
> ONC [ə̃g] > NC [ə̃g]
> ONEC [ənˈjə] > NEC [ənˈji]
> OSEC [ə̃ɾˈgə] > SEC [ə̃ɾˈgə]
> OCC [ɛŋˈgɛ] > CC [ɛŋˈgɛ]
> OSC [əŋˈgə] > SC [aˈgɔ]
> MC [ə˧˩gə˨] > MCA [ɣə˨], MCB [əˈgɛ˨], MCC [ə˧˩ˈjə˨], MCD [ə˥˩ˈŋə˩]

baw [baw] "vomit"
> ONC [baw] > NC [baw]
> ONEC [bɔw] > NEC [vu]
> OSEC [baw] > SEC [bɔ]
> OCC [aw] > CC [aw]
> OSC [bwɔ] > SC [bu]
> MC [waw˨] > MCA [wɔw˨], MCB [ɔw˨], MCC [aw˨], MCD [waw˩]

ići [iˈtɕi] "chew"
> ONC [itɕ] > NC [its]
> ONEC [iˈɕi] > NEC [iˈɕi]
> OSEC [iˈdʑi] > SEC [iˈdʑi]
> OCC [ɛˈxi] > CC [ɛˈji]
> OSC [ˈitɾi] > SC [ˈitɾi]
> MC [i˨ti˨] > MCA [θi˨], MCB [əˈti˨], MCC [i˨ti˨], MCD [i˩θi˩]

bim [bim] "here, hither"
> ONC [bim] > NC [bĩ]
> ONEC [bim] > NEC [vim]
> OSEC [bĩw] > SEC [bĩw]
> OCC [im] > CC [im]
> OSC [bib] > SC [bib]
> MC [um˨] > MCA [u˩], MCB [u˨], MCC [ɔm˨], MCD [ũ˩]

amwoz [amˈwɔz] "there, thither"
> ONC [ə̃ˈwɔz] > NC [wɔz]
> ONEC [amˈwɔz] > NEC [amˈwɔɾ]
> OSEC [ãwˈwəz] > SEC [ɔ̃ˈwəɾ]
> OCC [amˈwɔz] > CC [amˈwɔz] ([amˈwɔ] before /ɾ l/)
> OSC [abˈwɔz] > SC [aˈbuz]
> MC [a˧˩ˈwɔ˧˥] > MCA [wɔ˧˥], MCB [əˈwɔ˥], MCC [ɛ˧˩ˈwa˧˥], MCD [a˥˩ˈwɔ˩˥]

sưr [sɨɾ] "there, yon(der)"
> ONC [si] > NC [si]
> ONEC [sɨl] > NEC [səɪl]
> OSEC [sɨl] > SEC [sɨl]
> OCC [siɾ] > CC [si]
> OSC [zɾɨ] > SC [zɾi]
> MC [nɨn˨] > MCA [nə˩], MCB [nin˨], MCC [nuŋ˨], MCD [tũ˩]

pue [puˈɛ] "spit"
> ONC [puˈɛ] > NC [pɛ]
> ONEC [pwɛ] > NEC [fwi]
> OSEC [pu] > SEC [pɨ]
> OCC [fɛ] > CC [fɛ]
> OSC [buˈɛ] > SC [bø]
> MC [pu˦] > MCA [pu˦], MCB [pu˦], MCC [pɔ˦], MCD [fu˥]

ǧac [dzak] "up"
> ONC [dzak] > NC [dzak]
> ONEC [zak] > NEC [ɾak]
> OSEC [dak] > SEC [dak]
> OCC [zak] > CC [zak]
> OSC [dɾɔk] > SC [dɾɔk]
> MC [dak˨] > MCA [daˀ˨], MCB [dat˨], MCC [lɛk˨], MCD [na˧˩]

[iˈə] "down"
> ONC [iˈə] > NC [ə]
> ONEC [jə] > NEC [jə]
> OSEC [iˈə] > SEC [jə]
> OCC [iˈɛ] > CC [jɛ]
> OSC [iˈə] > SC [jə]
> MC [i˦] > MCA [i˦], MCB [i˦], MCC [i˦], MCD [i˥]

cưp [kɨp] "left"
> ONC [kip] > NC [kip]
> ONEC [kɨp] > NEC [xəɪp]
> OSEC [kɨp] > SEC [kɨp]
> OCC [kih] > CC [ki]
> OSC [gɨp] > SC [gip]
> MC [kɨp˨] > MCA [kiˀ˨], MCB [kip˨], MCC [kup˨], MCD [xi˧˥]

aćir [aˈtɕiɾ] "right"
> ONC [aˈtɕi] > NC [tsi]
> ONEC [aˈɕil] > NEC [aˈɕil]
> OSEC [aˈdʑil] > SEC [aˈdʑil]
> OCC [aˈxiɾ] > CC [aˈxi]
> OSC [ˈatɾi] > SC [ˈatɾi]
> MC [a˨ˈtin˨] > MCA [θi˩], MCB [əˈtin˨], MCC [ɛ˨ˈtiŋ˨], MCD [a˩ˈθĩ˩]

dơr [dɨɾ] "tail"
> ONC [də] > NC [də]
> ONEC [dɨl] > NEC [ɨl]
> OSEC [dɨl] > SEC [dɨl]
> OCC [diɾ] > CC [di]
> OSC [dɾɨ] > SC [dɾi]
> MC [dɨn˨] > MCA [di˩], MCB [din˨], MCC [luŋ˨], MCD [nũ˩]

ưz [ɨz] "blood"
> ONC [iz] > NC [iz]
> ONEC [ɨz] > NEC [əɪɾ]
> OSEC [ɨz] > SEC [ɨɾ]
> OCC [iz] > CC [iz] (drop the [z] before /l ɾ/)
> OSC [ɨz] > SC [iz]
> MC [ɨ˦] > MCA [i˦], MCB [i˦], MCC [u˦], MCD [i˥]

darơ [daˈɾə] "to, toward"
> ONC [daˈə] > NC [də]
> ONEC [dɔˈlə] > NEC [ɔˈləɪ]
> OSEC [dal] > SEC [dal]
> OCC [daˈɾɛ] > CC [daˈɾɛ]
> OSC [daɾ] > SC [daɾ]
> MC [da˨ˈnɔ˨] > MCA [dnɔ˨], MCB [əˈdnɔ˨], MCC [lɛ˨ˈna˨], MCD [na˩tɔ˩]

ascoro [askɔˈɾɔ] "(away) from"
> ONC [askaˈɔ] > NC [asˈkɔ]
> ONEC [askuˈlɔ] > NEC [askɨˈlu]
> OSEC [asˈkɔl] > SEC [asˈkol]
> OCC [askɔˈɾɔ] > CC [askuˈɾɔ]
> OSC [asˈkɔɾ] > SC [asˈkoɾ]
> MC [a˧˩kɔ˨ˈnɔ˨] > MCA [aɣ˧˩ˈnɔ˨], MCB [a˧˩gˈnɔ˨], MCC [ɛ˧˩ka˨ˈna˨], MCD [a˥˩xɔ˩ˈtɔ˩]
Last edited by Man in Space on 08 Feb 2016 19:31, edited 2 times in total.
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CC = Common Caber
CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
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Re: Caber Logograms

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Top row: miśin "hang", basma "take captive" (dialectally "enslave"), dihgor "command, give orders", baśam "pick a fight, instigate", far "flick"
Second row: ićino "bend (transitive)", damba "joint, bend", ma "glow", ưf "color", ơro "needle"
Third row: sihca "corner", mafa "cook (food)", ưrơm "type of bird", ćasfan "fern", mir "rein(s)"
Fourth row: mazbo "plow (verb)", wơo "cower, cringe, flinch", śehcơ "stream, brook", upsi "slide", lưs "necklace"
Bottom row: darơ "red", mihgơ "green", aścan "blue", waǧitec "yellow/orange", ćosnati "thread (verb)"

Note the semantic compounds in the logograms for the colors—blood-color, grass-color, water-color, and fire-color, respectively.
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CC = Common Caber
CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
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Re: Caber Logograms

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Something for the /r/conlangs Golden Record. It says something along the lines of "On behalf of the Caber, we call out to you who come from another world and welcome/greet you".

Common Caber:
Adig ba Caber, ace do so i mưo rai baćam ci ưndư bưf ace nagi so.
[aˈdig ba kaˈbɛɾ ǀ aˈkɛ dɔ sɔ i mɨˈɔ ɾaˈi baˈtɕam ki ɨnˈdɨ bɨf aˈkɛ naˈgi sɔ ǁ]

North Caber:
Dig ba Gba, dze do so i mo i bdzą tsi di bǝf dze ǝndzi so.
[dig ba gba ǀ dzɛ dɔ sɔ i mɔ i bdzã tsi di bəf dzɛ ənˈdzi sɔ ǁ]

Northeast Caber:
Adiw va Hywal, aci u su i miu lei vyśam hi yndy vyf aci neii su.
[aˈdiw va xəɪˈwal ǀ aˈki u su i mju lɛj vəɪˈɕam xi əɪnˈdəɪ vəɪf aˈki nɛˈji su ǁ]

Southeast Caber:
Adiw ba Cèn, age do so i mư na badǫ̀ ci ų̛rdư bưf age nagi so.
[aˈdiw ba kɛn ǀ aˈge do so i mɨ na baˈdɔ̃ ki ɨ̃ɾˈdɨ bɨf aˈge naˈgi so ǁ]

Central Caber:
Adig ba Cabi, ase do so i mio rai ajam si indi i ase ae so.
[aˈðig ba kaˈβi ǀ aˈsɛ dɔ sɔ i mjɔ ɾaj aˈxam s(i) inˈdi i aˈsɛ aˈɛ sɔ ǁ]

South Caber:
Adig bo Góre, oce do zo i bö rai batrab gi idi bif og nog zo.
[aˈdig bɔ ˈgoɾɛ ǀ ɔˈkɛ dɔ zɔ i bø ɾaˈi baˈtɾab gi iˈdi bif ɔg nɔg zɔ ǁ]

Mute Caber A:
Đỉ² wo² Ko³, ḵe² do² no² i² mǝ⁴ ǥả⁵ fŧa¹ ki² đi² waf⁴ ḵe² ngi² no².
[ðiˀ˨ wɔ˨ kɔ˧ ǀ xɛ˨ dɔ˨ nɔ˨ i˨ mə˦ ɣaˀ˧˥ fθa˩ ki˨ ði˨ waf˦ xɛ˨ ŋgi˨ nɔ˨ ǁ]
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CC = Common Caber
CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
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Re: Caber Logograms

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Spoiler:
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This is the system of sound complements that appear under some glyphs. When a complement appears below a glyph, it informs the reader what the initial sound of the word is. A few initials have two variants; which one is used is glyph- or word-specific. (There's two forms of the d- initial because I'm not sure which one I want to use.)

This post's batch of logograms:
Spoiler:
Image
Top row: ibơs "turn (facing or corner)", musrus "earwax", zơmo "body", indơ "dandruff", fusco "side, face", cơpaw "explode"
Second row: zoce "throw off sparks", duro "shell", dưro "layer (noun)", ǧin "dust (noun)", boz "soil, earth", sasmơ "sizzle"
Third row: baǵưg "gray", bidơn "tone, hue", famơw "light, pale", sinam "fail", ama "explore", tasćo "current"
Fourth row: zơnam "rapids", carnơs "riverbed", barưs "white", worư "time", taư "moon", ưs "night"
Fifth row: hom "black", "field", manda "trough, furrow", čimrat "let (someone) down", baćam "world", rai "another"
Bottom row: ćam "ground", maśar "type of long-necked animal", ơč "dam, barrier", "know", hon "think", čưr "show something to a person or people"

manda "trough, furrow" is a reference to Amanda Babcock Furrow of CONLANG-L.
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CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
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PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
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Ooh! New logograms!

Very creative -- the color words show Caber logograms can be as complex as hanzi/kanji.

And I salute you for your Easter egg in homage to Amanda Babcock Furrow. Her mention of writing Ursula K. LeGuin as a teen-ager inspired me to write my own letter to her (with Tanni's help, of course).
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Khemehekis wrote:Ooh! New logograms!

Very creative -- the color words show Caber logograms can be as complex as hanzi/kanji.

And I salute you for your Easter egg in homage to Amanda Babcock Furrow. Her mention of writing Ursula K. LeGuin as a teen-ager inspired me to write my own letter to her (with Tanni's help, of course).
[:D] Thank you!
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Lots of new logograms in this post—forty-nine. I think this is my largest single update on characters so far.

Top row: imiś "lie down", daraś "hair, fur", asim "raise", astac "flute", bor "carry", ưd "preen, groom oneself", ưtamac "excuse (someone)"
Second row: hoc "sick, ill", minic "mind", amag "lower", tưoc "pearl", castac "stomp", pưtu "spit", bas "arch"
Third row: ǵoǵ "bush, shrub", "branch", martam "string", ǧư "clam", bam "strike (with hammer or other tool)", dơt "tooth", nơśgic "polite"
Fourth row: hamawes "hair follicle, fur", čim "twig", sunưgo "harp, lyre", "lizard", tangat "metal", hau "bite", bidi "pet (animal)"
Fifth row: ohu "monkey", ưč "comfort, be there for", tơwưć "save", ǧasmać "pouch", rơa "(tree) trunk", "hit, strike", čưdič "train (verb)"
Sixth row: oesnoč "log", wec "cut, chop", faw "flip", ơpsi "trip", sưgo "ring", bowi "dance", uwan "want"
Bottom row: waw "faze, dazzle", posto "great, mighty", boưs "(take a) bow", oton "pigment, ink", rohca "dip", nomi "need"
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CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
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Top row: ơnơ "cry, weep", basnoc "chest, trunk", hid "fence", goci "weed, invasive plant"
Second row: hisic "type of tree", hasać "noodles", hed "place, region, area", oshić "sudden, abrupt"
Third row: ǵostoč "rabbit, hare", hi "turtle, tortoise", śamći "type of flower", ưrưc "litter; bier"
Bottom row: hasi "pyre", hog "fog", danơr "get the better of, trump", ceisic "govern"

Here's how I imagine this group of characters might look in cursive:
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Here's a sentence in both original and cursive script:
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Coś ceisic ba Caber.
He governs the Caber.
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CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
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Nice. I'll try to update your font when I have time.
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The largest update to the logograms at one time: One hundred new characters.
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Top row: ưsơ "east", mansơ "west", či "north", nasnơ "south", tarpa "art", iscip "punish", cơr "any", ban "gong", śưśćo "type of insect", ma "oil, grease"
Second row: śam "quick", bưsća "defect, blemish", fơrsic "belong", tascan "basket", forsic "group, bunch", ingo "damage", sưs "snake", śasćơ "drip, ooze", odoć "(bunch of) grape(s)"
Third row: one "bar", opi "peek", rưn "grove, stand of trees", fascư "plant", otơ "top, area on top", iniscip "punishment, penance", dacas "kneel", mưn "miss (emotional)", car "crystal", bup "drip", andar "grape"
Fourth row: asćar "pay attention (to), listen (to)", ǧan "sing", anǧan "song", ćor "name", zưn "bottom", hưc "hiccup", ơp "foot", paz "impression, trace", maz "peg", dazi "wine"
Fifth row: baiz "push", sưt "pull", parơc "(commit) suicide", parsư "part, component", min "lean", rif "dust, powder", zi "miss (at hitting something)", ơpaz "footprint, track", dơs "drop, let go of", paơś "cup"
Sixth row: aưc "dust", taz "mountain range", fa "blow", oriơn "belt", azam "butterfly", cơran lever, mưs "swing (at)", barưc "ox", mazno "durable, tough", emwot "lake"
Seventh row: muưś "squish", ưmban "flake, particle", fơirsa "sharpen", fơnor "dull (verb)", irsa "sharp", nor "dull", baraso "imagine", osčor "flee", ren "weak; pliable", ưs "scratch (noun)"
Eighth row: baś "nearby", hos "faraway", ar "scratch, claw at", far "ribbon", śima "nose", fơas "pebble", opưn "discuss", bơrni "sandal, shoe", bahmo "noon", nofśam "smile"
Ninth row: rorơ "star", siśam "ever", tono "note (song)", mahgi "wait", ǵasin "winter", wih "spring", čom "fall", pơrow "summer", cirnis "cloud", ferơr "weather"
Tenth row: čưsmać "love", śưś "scythe", harmin "fruit", nomưś "type of fruit", zơdo "type of fruit", ǧiran "type of fruit", carsi "type of fruit", ćơris "type of fruit", gospin "type of fruit", masnor "type of fruit"
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CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
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Top row: har "growl", cơusta "curtain, sheet", neơscin "wander", nuơsti "classify; discern", nintu "basin, depression", bousta "country", nainma "defect from, desert (from)"
Second row: mousni "leak", paus "knock", gaensi "(tree) bark", soưsro "strong", masi "coin", tuasep "charge, attack", damsi "defect to, change allegiance to"
Third row: cabni "weight, something to weigh something down or balance something", mintoc "type of animal used for riding", bưśưś "be absent, miss", toarci "lead", wam "room, partitioned area", cươcip "spearman", bas "now"
Fourth row: daơrśin "follow", rươrcis "plank, piece of wood", mozdan "awning", suisren "seize, have a seizure", wandi "suspect, think something or someone suspicious", usićip "bowman", ǧari "guilt"
Fifth row: uastoc "meal", astoc "serve (food)", uinǧưs "betray, backstab", faosroś "cost", eanri "warrior, soldier", anśip "swordsman", ǧasnir "innocence"
Bottom row: bưm "curl", unoas "lose (item)", fưś "fish", śamfưś "school (of fish)", baindi "day, twenty-four-hour period", rưmưś "odd (number)", tan "even (number)"

How these might look in cursive:
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CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
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Top row: baurnoč "labor, effort", tacơ "chisel", canag "wave", wasfa "spool", fainrom "buy", ư "rhythm", ǧasaur "band"
Second row: agron "axle", courco "wheel", aơrśo "sea, ocean", famśo "unwind, unspool", fiưr "sell", cam "rim", canca "stripe"
Third row: ipfar "tide", ơsim "character, symbol", pama "fabric", bintac "wind up, rewind", ưarcos "pick up", er "lung", śahư "inhale"
Fourth row: pabzi "tongs", gather "magic", icran "scroll", pasfam "component, ingredient", ibrau "bodyslam", ǵir "rip, tear", ifhư "exhale"
Fifth row: iǵưn "sailboat", pairsư "pilot a boat using a staff", gamo "distance", top "height", magar "read", "sigh; breathe", maśtac "coral"
Sixth row: paum "crater", śum "valley", inca "handle", "quench, put out (e.g., fire)", marsin "loan", ưgoć "pay back, return", pascra "reef"
Bottom row: ǵaǧ "flint", imsad "atoll", soar "man, crew", arpin "mistake", ǵindor "correction", raǧo "algae", zaorsi "resist"
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CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
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This is proceeding at a crazy pace. Good work!
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clawgrip wrote:This is proceeding at a crazy pace. Good work!
Thank you! [:D]
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Top row: dưmưś "reed(s)", ơ "if", nuas "then", bazna "meteor, shooting star", cưpći "thumb", onưm "wand", omana "record(s)", machi "hunt"
Second row: tin "small", oesto "big, large", hacar "compare, contrast", unashi "harvest (noun)", imbadu "fan", rưcći "staff, walking stick", impu "dive", wazmo "false"
Third row: "air", bơosnut "grind", ưśbatar "obstacle", ưś "hinder", ưcći "constellation", maz "gain", pơruf "smoke (verb)", mirwam "lie, tell a lie"
Fourth row: mośću "candle", aćam "forehead", bor "wither", cenim "nail", hehgi "aim, target", rihgi "lose", ơśćid "mast", dưro "true"
Fifth row: camno "pasture", camnon "force, compel", ǵoran "juice", pafci "cloak", iasci "read", tacom "clod; lozenge", nescu "statue", ui "tell the truth"
Sixth row: calơ "join together; fix", acsur "tent", ihpi "life", gathersoćur "witch", gatherip "warlock, shaman", nuc "volcano", buinsi "pulley", weg "tail"
Seventh row: cơśam "lightning", au "pain", nainca "vertebra", coasti "jam, (fruit) jelly", embưg "larva, grub", nưc "cove, bay", arơp "nook, cranny, crevice, alcove", ćimbac "ask"
Bottom row: sunaư "spoke", śuram "lazy", cando "canoe", ember "war", seśtiśam "do something the right way", itarpin "err, make a mistake", seisu "language", ogna "beer"
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CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
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I'm sorry, but I think you're going to have to wait a while for an updated font. This is like three or four hundred new characters!
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clawgrip wrote:I'm sorry, but I think you're going to have to wait a while for an updated font. This is like three or four hundred new characters!
No need to apologize, clawgrip. You're being very kind in creating the font, and I do not want to make you feel rushed on it.
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CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
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You're welcome.
Linguifex wrote: Tenth row: čưsmać "love", śưś "scythe", harmin "fruit", nomưś "type of fruit", zơdo "type of fruit", ǧiran "type of fruit", carsi "type of fruit", ćơris "type of fruit", gospin "type of fruit", masnor "type of fruit"
Linguifex, could you show pictures of these types of fruit? You've got my curiosity piqued now . . .
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I'm thinking about shifting Common Caber /x/ to /ʜ/ in South Caber. This is based on something a user said in—I think it was the Yay or Nay? thread. I don't use epiglottals very much. I actually don't use very many trills in my conlangs.
Khemehekis wrote:Linguifex, could you show pictures of these types of fruit? You've got my curiosity piqued now . . .
Unfortunately, I can't. These fruit don't exist—they're from my conworld.
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CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
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