Many thanks again for your patience and continued interest in playing. I've tried to be pretty forthcoming with information here, but please feel free to ask for clarification on anything if needed.
ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 21:58
NW/N/NE/W/C = ɥi:nro: ~ ɥi:nəro:
Of these two forms, [ɥiːnəroː] is closer. The sequence [-nər-] is correct. As a reminder, in my response to your previous guess, I confirmed that the segment [w] is present somewhere in the NW/N/NE/W/C protoform. To clarify something else I said last time, neither [iː] nor [o:] is correct, but there is an instance of [oi̯] here.
ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 21:58
E/SW/S/SE - ʑoɕnɛrwi
The form I had in mind was [ˈɟoçnarwe], but I feel like this is close enough. Well done!
ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 21:58
Initial proto-form: joi.ner.we:
You're very much on the right track here. The medial [-e-] is off in terms of vowel quality and the final vowel is off in terms of quantity. Also, [-oi̯-] should be [-oCi-], and one other vowel is missing as well. Aside from the lack of stress marking, though, everything else is correct.
ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 21:58
To proto-north:
jo we > jø wɤ > ɥe wo /ɥei.ner.wo:/
ei > i:, wo > o /ɥi:.ner.o:/
Elision/reduction of short vowels /ɥi:n.ro:/~/ɥi:nə.ro:/
There was some kind of vowel reduction, but this is otherwise all incorrect.
I will say that there is a stage between Proto-North and the modern languages. In other words, the NW/N/NE/W/C branch can be further subdivided. You don't have to reconstruct the intermediary forms, of course, but it might help.
ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 21:58
To NW:
ɥ > w /wi:n.ro:/
o: > u when not stressed /ˈwi:n.ru/
Vn.C > Ṽ.C /ˈwĩ:ru/
The first two are incorrect, but the last bit about nasalization is correct.
ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 21:58
To N:
ɥ > j /ji:n.ro:/
nr > nd /ɥi:n.do:/
ji > i /i:n.do:/
i: o: > ɨi̯ u: > əi̯ ʉu̯ /əi̯nˈdʉu̯/
[-nr-] > [-nd-] is correct. [-uː] > [-ʉu̯] is also correct, though not [-oː] > [-uː]. Everything else is incorrect.
ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 21:58
To NE:
ɥ > j /ji:nə.ro:/
ə > ʊ when next vowel is rounded /ji:nʊ.ro:/
#j > #ʝ /ʝi:nʊ.ro:/
r > l /ʝi:nʊ.lo:/
o: > wa: /ˌʝi:nʊˈlwa:/
The bit about [-ə-] > [-ʊ-] is basically correct. [j-] > [ʝ-] is correct, though [ɥ-] > [j-] is not. [-r-] > [-l-] is correct as well. For the last change, what I had in mind was actually [-oə̯] > [-waː].
ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 21:58
To W:
ɥ > j /ji:n.ro:/
i: o: > ai̯ oə̯ /jai̯n.roə̯/
Vn.C > Ṽ.C /jãĩ̯ˈroə̯/
Only the last point is correct.
ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 21:58
To C:
ɥ > j /ji:n.ro:/
#j > #h /hi:n.ro:/
nr > nd /hi:n.do:/
i: > ei̯ when stressed /ˈhei̯ndo:/
[-nr-] > [-nd-] is correct. [j-] > [h-] is close enough.
ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 21:58
To proto-south:
j > ʑ /ʑoʑ.ner.we:/
Random coda devoicing? /ʑoɕ.ner.we:/
e e: > ɛ i /ʑoɕ.nɛr.wi/
[j-] > [ʑ-] is probably close enough. Everything else is incorrect.
ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 21:58
To E:
#ʑ > #ɟ /ɟoɕ.nɛr.wi/
o > ø > e when next vowel is front /ɟeɕ.nɛr.wi/
ɕn > ɲ̊ /ɟe.ɲ̊ɛr.wi/
wi > u /ɟe.ɲ̊ɛr.u/
Deletion of r /ɟe.ɲ̊ɛu/
ɛu̯ > ɔu̯ /ɟeˈɲ̊ɔu̯/
I won't count [ʑ-] > [ɟ-] as incorrect, even though, as mentioned above, [ɟ-] is present in the southern protoform on my end. [o] > [ø] > [e] is correct, but I'm afraid the conditioning is not, as the vowel in the following syllable was not front. [-ɕn-] > [-ɲ-] is basically correct. [-wi] > [-u] is basically correct as well, though I have it as [-we] > [-w] > [-u]. You're also correct about the deletion of [-r-], but the preceding vowel was not [-ɛ-].
ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 21:58
To SW:
#ʑ > #ɟ /ɟoɕ.nɛr.wi/
o > ø when next vowel is front /ɟøɕ.nɛr.wi/
wi > y /ɟøɕ.nɛr.y/
Palatals shift to alveolars /døs.nɛr.y/
Rounding harmony /døsˈnœ:ry/
I won't count [ʑ-] > [ɟ-] as incorrect, even though, as mentioned above, [ɟ-] is present in the southern protoform on my end. [o] > [ø] > [e] is correct, but I'm afraid the conditioning is not, as the vowel in the following syllable was not front. You're right about the palatal to alveolar shift. SW did develop vowel harmony, but based on backness, not rounding.
ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 21:58
To S:
Sonorants fortite to stops after other consonants /ʑoɕ.tɛr.bi/
Palatals shift to alveolars /zos.tɛr.bi/
Deletion of ɛ, e o > ɛ ɔ: /ˈzɔstr̩bi/
You're right about fortition and shift from palatals to alveolars, though I will say that I have [-β-] as an intermediary stage between [-w-] and [-b-]. [-o-] > [-ɔ-] is correct, and while the vowel in [-Vr-] > [-r̩-] wasn't [-ɛ-], you're basically correct there as well.
ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 21:58
To SE:
Sonorants fortite to stops or fricatives after other consonants /ʑoɕ.tɛr.vi/
ɕt > t͡ɕ /ʑo.t͡ɕɛr.vi/
Deletion of final vowel /ʑo.t͡ɕɛrv/
Deletion of r, compensatory lengthening /ˈʑot͡ɕɛːv/
Final devoicing /ˈʑot͡ɕɛːf/
You're pretty much spot-on here.
ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote: ↑16 Aug 2023 21:58
E/SW vs S/SE seems to be a clear subgrouping, with protoforms /ɟøɕ.nɛr.wi/ for E/SW and /ʑoɕ.tɛr.vi/ for S/SE.
You're right about the subgroupings. Additionally, you're pretty close with the protoform for S/SE, but a bit further off for E/SW. [ɟøçn-r-] is correct, though.