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Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 12 Mar 2024 12:05
by VaptuantaDoi
lsd wrote: 12 Mar 2024 11:00 for IPA or diacritics,
simply use a font that that contains them (dejavu, arial,...)
and insert special characters...
that takes a very long time ...

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 12 Mar 2024 14:01
by Arayaz
lsd wrote: 12 Mar 2024 11:00 for IPA or diacritics,
simply use a font that that contains them (dejavu, arial,...)
and insert special characters...
I don't like using insert menus, since they take a while ─ and I prefer to do everything with keystrokes. That goes for anything, actually ─ I love keyboard shortcuts, mostly because I have a trackpad and it really sucks.

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 12 Mar 2024 15:43
by _Just_A_Sketch
Arayaz wrote: 12 Mar 2024 14:01 That goes for anything, actually ─ I love keyboard shortcuts, mostly because I have a trackpad and it really sucks.
Under the "device" tab in the chromebook settings you can disable touchpad acceleration, which might make it more bearable. It's what I've used for years, and I quite like it.

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 12 Mar 2024 15:59
by Visions1
VaptuantaDoi wrote: 12 Mar 2024 12:05
lsd wrote: 12 Mar 2024 11:00 for IPA or diacritics,
simply use a font that that contains them (dejavu, arial,...)
and insert special characters...
that takes a very long time ...
[+1]
It's a pain. On Apple, at least you have access to these symbols in the language tab on the top of the screen - you don't need to be in Pages to type funny letters, making searching things up way easier. Plus, you can type Hebrew vowels (good for me, since I'm learning Aramaic).
On Windows, there is no such "Symbols" option except in Insert on applications like Word and Publisher, or on websites - and worse, the Hebrew keyboard doesn't have vowels. It's a pain when you're used to Apple.

Also, how exactly do I mod my keyboard options as is? Vap told me something about this a while ago but I forgot it, so I need to find where he said it to me...

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 12 Mar 2024 17:06
by Arayaz
_Just_A_Sketch wrote: 12 Mar 2024 15:43
Arayaz wrote: 12 Mar 2024 14:01 That goes for anything, actually ─ I love keyboard shortcuts, mostly because I have a trackpad and it really sucks.
Under the "device" tab in the chromebook settings you can disable touchpad acceleration, which might make it more bearable. It's what I've used for years, and I quite like it.
I've turned it off. We'll see how it goes. I doubt I'll be able to break my keyboard shortcut habit, though.

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 12 Mar 2024 21:47
by VaptuantaDoi
Visions1 wrote: 12 Mar 2024 15:59 Also, how exactly do I mod my keyboard options as is? Vap told me something about this a while ago but I forgot it, so I need to find where he said it to me...
I can tell you again. For me, on Mac, I downloaded an app called Ukelele which lets you make new keyboard layouts, and made one with IPA + combining characters and such. Then you move the layout into the folder Library/Keyboard Layouts, restart the laptop and then go to systems preferences and add it as a new source. I remember there was some kind of problem getting the computer to recognise it, but the app came with a manual which explained the solution (one day I'll go back and re-learn how to use it and make a keyboard with ɣ).

One slight caveat – my computer will pretend that the Library folder doesn't exist; you have to do command + shift + G and then /Library for some obscure reason.

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 12 Mar 2024 22:08
by Arayaz
Arayaz wrote: 12 Mar 2024 17:06
_Just_A_Sketch wrote: 12 Mar 2024 15:43
Arayaz wrote: 12 Mar 2024 14:01 That goes for anything, actually ─ I love keyboard shortcuts, mostly because I have a trackpad and it really sucks.
Under the "device" tab in the chromebook settings you can disable touchpad acceleration, which might make it more bearable. It's what I've used for years, and I quite like it.
I've turned it off. We'll see how it goes. I doubt I'll be able to break my keyboard shortcut habit, though.
Update: I didn't make it. I bet it's just because of how long I've used it with acceleration, but I just couldn't keep going without it. Thanks, though!

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 12 Mar 2024 23:08
by _Just_A_Sketch
Arayaz wrote: 12 Mar 2024 22:08
Arayaz wrote: 12 Mar 2024 17:06
_Just_A_Sketch wrote: 12 Mar 2024 15:43
Arayaz wrote: 12 Mar 2024 14:01 That goes for anything, actually ─ I love keyboard shortcuts, mostly because I have a trackpad and it really sucks.
Under the "device" tab in the chromebook settings you can disable touchpad acceleration, which might make it more bearable. It's what I've used for years, and I quite like it.
I've turned it off. We'll see how it goes. I doubt I'll be able to break my keyboard shortcut habit, though.
Update: I didn't make it. I bet it's just because of how long I've used it with acceleration, but I just couldn't keep going without it. Thanks, though!
No problem! I don't blame you for not sticking with it, since most people who use my laptop react quite negatively to it. I'm certainly just biased from using it for a really long time.

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 13 Mar 2024 05:17
by Visions1
VaptuantaDoi wrote: 12 Mar 2024 21:47
Visions1 wrote: 12 Mar 2024 15:59 Also, how exactly do I mod my keyboard options as is? Vap told me something about this a while ago but I forgot it, so I need to find where he said it to me...
I can tell you again. For me, on Mac, I downloaded an app called Ukelele which lets you make new keyboard layouts, and made one with IPA + combining characters and such. Then you move the layout into the folder Library/Keyboard Layouts, restart the laptop and then go to systems preferences and add it as a new source. I remember there was some kind of problem getting the computer to recognise it, but the app came with a manual which explained the solution (one day I'll go back and re-learn how to use it and make a keyboard with ɣ).

One slight caveat – my computer will pretend that the Library folder doesn't exist; you have to do command + shift + G and then /Library for some obscure reason.
Thanks! However. what about Windows?

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 13 Mar 2024 09:55
by VaptuantaDoi
Visions1 wrote: 13 Mar 2024 05:17 Thanks! However. what about Windows?
Idk google it

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 13 Mar 2024 11:42
by lsd
VaptuantaDoi wrote: 12 Mar 2024 12:05
lsd wrote: 12 Mar 2024 11:00 for IPA or diacritics,
simply use a font that that contains them (dejavu, arial,...)
and insert special characters...
that takes a very long time ...
it depends on the importance of your use of these characters,
for IPA it's ok for me,
for my logograms I use
either a kind of IME that draws the glyphs according to their Latin transcription on writer,
or the virtual keyboard of the insertion of special characters with my dedicated fonts...

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 13 Mar 2024 14:05
by Arayaz
lsd wrote: 13 Mar 2024 11:42
VaptuantaDoi wrote: 12 Mar 2024 12:05
lsd wrote: 12 Mar 2024 11:00 for IPA or diacritics,
simply use a font that that contains them (dejavu, arial,...)
and insert special characters...
that takes a very long time ...
it depends on the importance of your use of these characters, [...]
Are you saying that 1) the characters are so important that it doesn't matter how long it takes? Or that 2) the characters are so unimportant that it's not worth learning a faster way?

Because no matter how often you use them, going through the "insert special characters" menu takes much longer than a simple keystroke.

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 13 Mar 2024 16:16
by lsd
sure, but if you don't use them too much,
the time spent learning or creating shortcuts
won't make up for the time spent using character insertion...

for me, it's the number of shortcuts for my logograms that isn't worth it...
if I've spent time tinkering with an IME, it's because it frees me from memorizing technical codes that are of no interest,
and in the same way, I'd rather visualize the virtual keyboard of character insertion,
whose slowness is in line with my weighing up the choice of this or that logogram,
than to bring to the forefront a machine language external to my language...

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 15 Mar 2024 02:25
by Khemehekis
Guzhiet Blahatz na Zos!

Happy Pi Day!

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 15 Mar 2024 02:43
by _Just_A_Sketch
Happy Pi day !!

Btw, I feel like now is a fitting time to ask, what does the last part of your signature, "31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!", mean?

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 15 Mar 2024 02:56
by Khemehekis
_Just_A_Sketch wrote: 15 Mar 2024 02:43 Btw, I feel like now is a fitting time to ask, what does the last part of your signature, "31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!", mean?
Good question! It's an old joke/meme that started with a comment from Tanni (a now-banned user) in a conversation here: viewtopic.php?p=95178&hilit=genitourinary#p95178

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 15 Mar 2024 19:24
by _Just_A_Sketch
Khemehekis wrote: 15 Mar 2024 02:56
_Just_A_Sketch wrote: 15 Mar 2024 02:43 Btw, I feel like now is a fitting time to ask, what does the last part of your signature, "31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!", mean?
Good question! It's an old joke/meme that started with a comment from Tanni (a now-banned user) in a conversation here: viewtopic.php?p=95178&hilit=genitourinary#p95178
That is a much sillier origin than I had expected lol

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 15 Mar 2024 21:38
by Arayaz
Happy pi day (belatedly), and happy ides of March (tumblr's favorite holiday)!

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 20 Mar 2024 19:52
by Arayaz
We recently had the 234,567th post of the CBB! But I missed its creation and can't find which one it is [:'(]

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Posted: 22 Mar 2024 23:54
by Salmoneus
Just encountered a beautiful Irish sentence glossed for me:

An t-ealaíontóir gur mhór aici an damhan alla agus gur mhór a cuid damhan alla, Louise Bourgeois, fuair sí bás ar na mallaibh.

Literally: "the artist that big with her the spider and that big her lot of spider, Louise Bourgeois, found she death on the [slows? lates?]"

Or in English: "Louise Bourgeois, an artist who liked spiders and had plenty of spiders, died recently"

[apparently 'mallaibh' only occurs in this expression so has no real meaning; I'm guessing the etymology there]