Romanization game #2

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/p tɕ kʷ q qʷ ʔ/ p j cu k ku
/p’ tθ’ ts’ tɬ’ tʂ’ tɕ’ kʷ’ q’ qʷ’/ p' t'd ts' j'r j' c'u k' k'u
/v θ s ɬ ʂ ɕ xʷ X Xʷ ħ h/ v d s lh zr z xu q qu gh h
/w l j w ʕ/ w l y u g

/i iˑ iː eˑ eː o oˑ a aˑ aː/ i í íi e é o ó a á áa

Remember: Chi won't show, but capital x will.

/m n ŋ/
/p t k/
/tθ ts tɬ tʃ/
/kθ ks kɬ kx/
/s/
/v l j/

/i i: y y: u u:/
/ɛ e e: ə ə:/
/a a: ɐ ɒ ɒ:/
Three pitches - rising, falling, low. /ɛ ɐ/ can only take low pitches.
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Re: Romanization game #2

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Visions1 wrote: 21 Mar 2024 11:58 Remember: Chi won't show, but capital x will.
1. As you just showed, it can be divined from context
2. Capital X looks terrible and I won't use it
3. χ does show for me so I will continue to use it


/m n ŋ/ m n ƞ
/p t k/ p t k
/tθ ts tɬ tʃ/ z c ź ć
/kθ ks kɬ kx/ ż ċ ẑ ĉ
/s/ s
/v l j/ v l y

/i i: y y: u u:/ i ī y ȳ u ū
/ɛ e e: ə ə:/ æ e ē o ō
/a a: ɐ ɒ ɒ:/ a ā ə ȧ â

/rising, falling, low/ i' ih i



Next:

/p t k/
/x χʲ χʷ χʲʷ χˤ χˤʷ/
/χˑ χˑʲ χˑʷ χˑʲʷ xˑˤ χˑˤʷ/
/χː χːʲ χːʷ χːʲʷ χːˤ χːˤʷ ħː/
/s’ χ’ χʲ’ χʷ’ χʲʷ’ xˤ’ χˤʷ’/
/m n/
/l ɾ j w/

/i u e o a/

[}:D]
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Re: Romanization game #2

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You wicked beast you, tsk tsk tsk.

/p t k/ p t k
/x χʲ χʷ χʲʷ χˤ χˤʷ/ h hy hw hyu gh ghu
/χˑ χˑʲ χˑʷ χˑʲʷ xˑˤ χˑˤʷ/ everything as a bove but acute on h I can't be bothered.
/χː χːʲ χːʷ χːʲʷ χːˤ χːˤʷ ħː/ as above but two acutes on h; ħ is h^
/s’ χ’ χʲ’ χʷ’ χʲʷ’ xˤ’ χˤʷ’/ s' h' hy' hw' hyu' gh' ghu'
/m n/ m n
/l ɾ j w/ l r y w

/i u e o a/ a e i o u deliberately because why not.

proof of concept

/m n/
/x X xʲ Xʷ/
/k q/
/L/

/a ɐ ɒ ɑ/

/n/ becomes /nʲ/ before /x/ and /N/ before /X Xʷ/

Six tones - 15, 51, 151, 515, 1515, 5151. The first and third tone only occur on /x/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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Visions1 wrote: 21 Mar 2024 12:32 proof of concept

/m n/
/x X xʲ Xʷ/
/k q/
/L/

/a ɐ ɒ ɑ/

/n/ becomes /nʲ/ before /x/ and /N/ before /X Xʷ/

Six tones - 15, 51, 151, 515, 1515, 5151. The first and third tone only occur on /x/
m n /m n/
x1 x2 x1y x2w /x X xʲ Xʷ/
k q /k q/
l /L/

e a o å /a ɐ ɒ ɑ/

/n/ becomes ny /nʲ/ before /x/ and n2 /N/ before /X Xʷ/

Six tones - 15, 51, 151, 515, 1515, 5151. The first and third tone only occur on /x/

Next:

/b t tˤ d dˤ k ɡ ɡ q ʔ/
/f θ θˤ ð ðˤ s z ʃ x x ɣ ʁ h/
/j w/
/m n n ŋ/
/r r ʜ ʢ/
/l l/

/iː uː/
/ɪ ɪː ʊ ʊː/
/eː oː/
/ɛː/
/æ æː/
/aː/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p t k/<p t k>
/x χʲ χʷ χʲʷ χˤ χˤʷ/<c cj cw cy ch cx>
/χˑ χˑʲ χˑʷ χˑʲʷ xˑˤ χˑˤʷ/<ć ćj ćw ćy ćh ćx>
/χː χːʲ χːʷ χːʲʷ χːˤ χːˤʷ ħː/<c̄ c̄j c̄w c̄y c̄h c̄x hh>
/s’ χ’ χʲ’ χʷ’ χʲʷ’ xˤ’ χˤʷ’/<s x qj qw qy qh qx>
/m n/<m n>
/l ɾ j w/<l r j w>

/i u e o a/<i u e o a>

Aa Cc Ćć C̄c̄ Ee Hh Ii Jj Kk Mm Nn Oo Pp Qq Rr Ss Tt Uu Ww Xx Yy

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Re: Romanization game #2

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/b t tˤ d dˤ k ɡ ɡ q ʔ/ b t t' d d' k g g' q "
/f θ θˤ ð ðˤ s z ʃ x x ɣ ʁ h/ f t t' d d' s z s x x g q h
/j w/ j v
/m n n ŋ/ m n n ŋ
/r r ʜ ʢ/ r r 3 3
/l l/ l l

/iː uː/ y w
/ɪ ɪː ʊ ʊː/ ë i u ö
/eː oː/ e o
/ɛː/ ä
/æ æː/ â ââ
/aː/ aa



/m n/
/p t ts k ʔ/
/b d g/
/f s ʃ x/
/v z ʁ/
/l j/

/ʌ ɛ ɘ ɔ ɪ ʊ/
/a: ei ai oi ɵi i: u:/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n/ <m n>
/p t ts k ʔ/ <p t c k q>
/b d g/ <b d g>
/f s ʃ x/ <f s x h>
/v z ʁ/ <v z r>
/l j/ <l j>

/ʌ ɛ ɘ ɔ ɪ ʊ/ <a e y o i u>
/a: ei ai oi ɵi i: u:/ <ā ē ai oi yi ī ū>

Aa Āā Bb Cc Dd Ee Ēē Ff Gg Hh Ii Īī Jj Kk Ll Mm Nn Oo Pp Qq Rr Ss Tt Uu Ūū Vv Xx Yy Zz
Next, please...

/p t d ʈ ɖ k/
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/
/ɸ s ʂ/
/ɹ l j w/

/i iː u uː/
/e eː/
/a aː/
“Like billowing clouds, Like the incessant gurgle of the brook,
The longing of the spirit can never be stilled.” ― St. Hildegard von Bingen
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n/<m n>
/p t ts k ʔ/<p t z k c
/b d g/<b d g>
/f s ʃ x/<f s š x>
/v z ʁ/<w z r>
/l j/<l j>

/ʌ ɛ ɘ ɔ ɪ ʊ/<ò a e o i u>
/a: ei ai oi ɵi i: u:/<ar ej aj oj yj ir ur>

/m n ɳ ŋ/
/p t ʈ c k/
/b d ɖ ɟ g/
/ɸ~h/
/β̞ l ɭ /
/β̞ː lː ɭː/
/j w/

/i ɯ u/
/e ɤ o/
/a/

/V́ V̀/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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jimydog000 wrote: 21 Mar 2024 14:19 /m n ɳ ŋ/
/p t ʈ c k/
/b d ɖ ɟ g/
/ɸ~h/
/β̞ l ɭ /
/β̞ː lː ɭː/
/j w/

/i ɯ u/
/e ɤ o/
/a/

/V́ V̀/
m n ň ŋ /m n ɳ ŋ/
p t ť ḱ k /p t ʈ c k/
b d ď ǵ g /b d ɖ ɟ g/
h /ɸ~h/
w l ľ /β̞ l ɭ /
ww ll ľľ /β̞ː lː ɭː/
j v /j w/

i ï u /i ɯ u/
e ë o /e ɤ o/
a ä /a/

∅ s /V́ V̀/

Next:

/p t k ʔ/
/f v s h/
/m n ŋ/
/ᵐb ⁿd ᵑɡ/
/r/
/l/
/t͡s/
/ⁿd͡z/

/i u/
/e o/
/ɛ ɔ/
/a/
/eɪ oʊ/
/aɪ aʊ/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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ok so
“Like billowing clouds, Like the incessant gurgle of the brook,
The longing of the spirit can never be stilled.” ― St. Hildegard von Bingen
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Re: Romanization game #2

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GoshDiggityDangit wrote: 21 Mar 2024 14:43 ok so
Sorry, are you referring to the fact that your most recent post appears to have accidentally been skipped, or is there something else I'm missing?

/p t d ʈ ɖ k/ <p t d rt rd k>
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ <m n rn ny ng>
/ɸ s ʂ/ <f s rs>
/ɹ l j w/ <r l y w>

/i iː u uː/ <i î u û>
/e eː/ <e ê>
/a aː/ <a â>

Aa Ââ Dd Ee Êê Ff Gg Ii Îî Kk Ll Mm Nn Pp Rr Ss Tt Uu Ûû Ww Yy

/p t k ʔ/ <p t k q>
/f v s h/ <f v s h>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ñ>
/ᵐb ⁿd ᵑɡ/ <mb nd ñg>
/r/ <r>
/l/ <l>
/t͡s/ <c>
/ⁿd͡z/ <nj>

/i u/ <i u>
/e o/ <ê ô>
/ɛ ɔ/ <e o>
/a/ <a>
/eɪ oʊ/ <ey ow>
/aɪ aʊ/ <ay aw>

Aa Bb Cc Dd Ee Êê Ff Gg Hh Ii Jj Kk Ll Mm Nn Ññ Oo Ôô Pp Qq Rr Ss Tt Uu Vv Ww Yy

Next:

/p pʰ b t tʰ d ʈ ʈʰ ɖ c cʰ ɟ k kʰ g/
/s z ɬ ɮ h/
/ts t͡sʰ d͡z t͡ɬ t͡ɬʰ d͡ɮ/
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/
/ɹ j w/
/ɽ/

/i iː y yː u uː/
/a aː/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p pʰ b t tʰ d ʈ ʈʰ ɖ c cʰ ɟ k kʰ g/ p ph b t th d t th d c ch j k kh g
/s z ɬ ɮ h/ s z l lj h
/ts t͡sʰ d͡z t͡ɬ t͡ɬʰ d͡ɮ/ ts tsh dz tl tlh dlj
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ m n n ñ ŋ
/ɹ j w/ r y w
/ɽ/ r

/i iː y yː u uː/ i ii u uu o oo
/a aː/ a aa

Next:

/b d dz gʷ ʔ/
/p t ts tʃ kʷ q/
/ts' tɬ' kʷ' qʷ'/
/s ʃ ɬ xʷ X Xʷ h/
/j l w/
/j' l'/

/a i ə u/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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Visions1 wrote: 22 Mar 2024 05:19 /b d dz gʷ ʔ/
/p t ts tʃ kʷ q/
/ts' tɬ' kʷ' qʷ'/
/s ʃ ɬ xʷ X Xʷ h/
/j l w/
/j' l'/

/a i ə u/
b d z g j /b d dz gʷ ʔ/
p t c č k q /p t ts tʃ kʷ q/
cj tlj kwj qwj /ts' tɬ' kʷ' qʷ'/
s š tl xw x xw h /s ʃ ɬ xʷ X Xʷ h/
y l w /j l w/
yj lj /j' l'/

a i o u /a i ə u/

Next:

/p b t d k ɡ ʔ/
/f v θ ð s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ χ h/
/j w ʁ̞/
/m n/
/l/
/t͡s t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/

/i u/
/e o/
/a/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p b t d k ɡ ʔ/ <p b t d k g q>
/f v θ ð s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ χ h/ <f v th dh s z š ž kh gh x h>
/j w ʁ̞/ <y w r>
/m n/ <m n>
/l/ <l>
/t͡s t̠͡ʃ d̠͡ʒ/ <c č dž>

/i u/ <i u>
/e o/ <e o>
/a/ <a>

Aa Bb Cc Čč Dd Ee Ff Gg Hh Ii Kk Ll Mm Nn Oo Pp Qq Rr Ss Šš Tt Uu Vv Ww Xx Yy Zz Žž

Next:

/p b t d k g ʔ/
/f v θ ð s z ʃ ʒ h/
/t͡ʃ/
/m n/
/l j w/
/r/

/i u/
/a/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p b t d k g ʔ/ p p/b t t/d k k/g '/nothing
/f v θ ð s z ʃ ʒ h/ p b t d s z sh zh h
/t͡ʃ/ c
/m n/ m n
/l j w/ l l/y/i l/w/u
/r/ r

/i u/ i/e u/o
/a/ a

Next:

/m n/
/p t k/
/ts/
/s h/
/ɹ/
/w j/

/a a: e e: i i: o o: u u:/
High and low pitch

/p, k/ -> /β, g~ɣ/ word-medially
/ti, si, tsi/ -> /tʃi, ʃi, tʃi/
/nt, nts, nk/ -> /nd, ndz ŋg/
/m, n, s/ -> /v, ŋ, ʃ/ word-finally
/ɹ/ -> /ɾ/ word-medially
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/m n/ <m n>
/p t k/ <p t k>
/ts/ <ts>
/s h/ <s h>
/ɹ/ <r>
/w j/ <w y>

/a a: e e: i i: o o: u u:/ <a aa e ee i ii o oo u uu>
High and low pitch <V́ V>

/p, k/ -> /β, g~ɣ/ <b g> word-medially
/ti, si, tsi/ -> /tʃi, ʃi, tʃi/ <chi shi chi>
/nt, nts, nk/ -> /nd, ndz ŋg/ <nd nz ng>
/m, n, s/ -> /v, ŋ, ʃ/ <m n s> word-finally
/ɹ/ -> /ɾ/ <r> word-medially

Aa Áá Bb Cc Dd Ee Éé Gg Hh Ii Íí Kk Mm Nn Oo Óó Pp Rr Ss Tt Uu Úú Ww Yy Zz

Next:

/p b t d k g/
/s z ʃ ʒ h/
/t͡s d͡z t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/
/m n/
/l j w/

/i y ɯ u/
/e ø ɤ o/
/a ɒ/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p b t d k g/ p b t d k g
/s z ʃ ʒ h/ s z s z h
/t͡s d͡z t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/ c j c j
/m n/ m n
/l j w/ l y w

/i y ɯ u/ i u ɩ ů
/e ø ɤ o/ e o e̊ o̊
/a ɒ/ a å

Nex:

/b~m d~n/
/p t k/
/ɸ~h~s~r/
/l~n/

/a æ ɐ ɑ ɒ e ʌ ɛ i ɨ ɪ o ø ɵ ɔ ɘ ə ɤ u ʊ y/
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/b~m d~n/ <b d>
/p t k/ <p t k>
/ɸ~h~s~r/ <r>
/l~n/ <l>

/a æ ɐ ɑ ɒ e ʌ ɛ i ɨ ɪ o ø ɵ ɔ ɘ ə ɤ u ʊ y/ <a æ ɐ ɑ ɒ e ʌ ɛ i ɨ ı o ø ɵ ɔ ɘ ə ɯ u ʊ y>

Aa Ɐɐ Ɑɑ Ɒɒ Ææ Bb Dd Ee Ǝɘ Əə Ɛɛ Iı İi Ɨɨ Kk Ll Oo Øø Ɵɵ Ɔɔ Pp Rr Tt Uu Ʊʊ Ɯɯ Ʌʌ Yy

/p b ɓ t d ɗ k g ʔ/
/ɸ θ s ɬ ʃ h/
/t͡s d͡z t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/
/m n/
/ð̞ l j ɰ w/

/i y ʉ u/
/e o/
/ʌ/
/a/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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VaptuantaDoi wrote: 21 Mar 2024 11:29 /p tɕ kʷ q qʷ ʔ/
/p’ tθ’ ts’ tɬ’ tʂ’ tɕ’ kʷ’ q’ qʷ’/
/v θ s ɬ ʂ ɕ xʷ χ χʷ ħ h/
/w l j w ʕ/

/i iˑ iː eˑ eː o oˑ a aˑ aː/
p ć kw q qw ' /p tɕ kʷ q qʷ ʔ/
P Ŧ C Ⱦ Č Ć kW Q qW /p’ tθ’ ts’ tɬ’ tʂ’ tɕ’ kʷ’ q’ qʷ’/
v þ s ł š ś xw r rw ḣ h /v θ s ɬ ʂ ɕ xʷ χ χʷ ħ h/
w l y w g /w l j w ʕ/

ĭ i ī e ē ŏ o ă a ā /i iˑ iː eˑ eː o oˑ a aˑ aː/

a ă ā C Č ć Ć e ē g h ḣ i ĭ ī kw kW l ł o ŏ p P q Q qw qW r rw s š ś Ŧ Ⱦ v w w xw y '

shimobaatar wrote: 22 Mar 2024 19:37 /p b ɓ t d ɗ k g ʔ/
/ɸ θ s ɬ ʃ h/
/t͡s d͡z t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/
/m n/
/ð̞ l j ɰ w/

/i y ʉ u/
/e o/
/ʌ/
/a/
p bh b t dh d k g /p b ɓ t d ɗ k g ʔ/
f th s lh sh h /ɸ θ s ɬ ʃ h/
c z ch j /t͡s d͡z t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/
m n /m n/
r l y gh w /ð̞ l j ɰ w/

i u ů ou /i y ʉ u/
e o /e o/
å /ʌ/
a /a/

Next:

/p p̎ b t t͈ d k k͈ ɡ ʔ/
/f f͈ v θ θ͈ s s͈ z ʂ ʂ̎ h/
/j w/
/m n ŋ/
/r/
/l/
/t͡θ t͈͡θ͈ d͡ð t͡ʃ t͈͡ʃ̎ d͡ʒ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ̎͡ʂ̎ ɖ͡ʐ/

/i y ɯ u/
/e ø ɤ o/
/ɛ ɔ/
/a/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p p̎ b t t͈ d k k͈ ɡ ʔ/ <p pp b t tt d k kk g q>
/f f͈ v θ θ͈ s s͈ z ʂ ʂ̎ h/ <f ff v sh ssh s ss z sr ssr h>
/j w/ <y w>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/r/ <r>
/l/ <l>
/t͡θ t͈͡θ͈ d͡ð t͡ʃ t͈͡ʃ̎ d͡ʒ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ̎͡ʂ̎ ɖ͡ʐ/ <th tth dh c cc j cr ccr jr>

/i y ɯ u/ <i oi eu u>
/e ø ɤ o/ <e oe eo o>
/ɛ ɔ/ <ea oa>
/a/ <a>

Aa Bb Cc Dd Ee Ff Gg Hh Ii Jj Kk Ll Mm Nn Oo Pp Qq Rr Ss Tt Uu Vv Ww Yy Zz

Next:

/b t d k/
/f θ s h/
/t͡s d͡z/
/m n ŋ/
/l j w/
/ɾ/

/i ĩ u ũ/
/e ẽ o õ/
/ɛ ɛ̃ ɔ ɔ̃/
/ɑ ɑ̃/
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