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Alright, I'm joining the trend. I'm making an archive.
Mind you, not a sketchpad or scrap page. I don't think either terms cover what I want to do.

I like archiving my work in real life.
I'm going to post archived langs here. Some are scraps, but some are more worked out. Maybe they may pick up from here.
I will edit this post to list them here chronologically, but obviously they won't be posted chronologically, so I'll edit links onto this post as well.
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Visions1 in my scrap thread wrote: 13 Mar 2024 21:21
Arayaz wrote: 13 Mar 2024 14:00
Visions1 wrote: 13 Mar 2024 05:54 Lol. I was part of a Discord server where they basically made me an entire channel just to post about conlanging so it wouldn't clog the channels. After I left they removed it.
It's sad that they removed it ─ all those ideas, lost to time...
No, I still have what I made there (these cool deixis charts). I put 'em into a pages file
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/aeiu/ glotalized vowels topic-comment case thing language I

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One thing that makes archiving on here hard is that these things are texts. These texts developed as I wrote them, self-referencing their prior words, changing things as they went on, sometimes leaving things unexplained, much like a proper corpus of literature over time. Therefore, by me presenting things on here, I am summarizing the process - essentially, not presenting the corpus as much as adding a summary to it. So, be aware of what I am doing.
I made this in winter 2022-2023, over I think a month or more or less. Or two weeks. Ehn

Phonology:

/m n/
/p t k/
/b d g/
/s x/
/z/
/j ɰ~r/ <j w/r>

/a e i u/
/ei ai/
/eu au/

/a: e: i: u:/ <ā ē ī ū>
/ei: ai:/ <ēī etc.>
/eu: au:/ as in the diphthong is long, not just the last vowel

/aˀ eˀ iˀ uˀ/ <a' e' i' u' etc.>
/eiˀ aiˀ/
/euˀ auˀ/

All of these can take stress: <á, ḗī, ú'>

Codas
/∅ s r n/
Coda /n/ may be realized as /m n ŋ/ if before corresponding stop.

I have a love for vowel inventories that skip /o/ or do some other thing it its place.

General planning notes:
Cases - lots of 'em

(Posting more on this lang tomorrow or later or something)
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/a e i u/! My favorite four-vowel system (aside from /e o i u/)! I used in in Ruykkarraber.
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Short vocabulary:

Naka - hyena (also, degenerate)
Ká'skuja - home
Teira - walk, later changed to go
Axau' - a kind of vegetable (looks like an endive I guess, provides a peppery flavour, used like bonito flakes are in Japan)
Pūzé - eat
Bajei - vegetable food (in general)

Verbs are marked with -jeu for predictive (translated often as future) and -ru marks perfective.

-xa for nominalizes verbs (I don't think they can take both).

Basic grammar:

SOV, but topic/comment and plurality are marked in (optional!?) case particles.
Insane and probably unnatural but who cares? Natlangs are unnatural.

Here's the list:

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ba' rū | COM sg/pl Subject
rī  gē | TOP sg/pl
       |
bi' na | COM sg/pl Object
dái tā | TOP sg/pl 
       |
kau sú'| COM sg/pl Oblique
mḗi su | TOP sg/pl 
Got it? Because it's important. For our Louis(->e)iana viewer, it's the secret sauce on the barbecue, or something else like that.
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My basic notes looked like this:
SOV
Describer-Described
Genitive/opposite case
Aux THEN described

Topic Comment instead of reg. S/O (I had no idea how to do this, so I ended up creating man entirely new thing. In retrospect, this to me is what half-knowing something can make: something original)
Grammar:

Basic word order is SVO. Thus, the comment system comes in handy for marking info down as important.
A basic sentence might look like this:

Naka Ba’ Kás’kuja Teira Dái
Hyena-SuC.sg [ Home Go ]-ObjT.sg
Hyena went home. OR:
Hyena went home.

Naka Ba’ Kás’kuja Dái Teira
Hyena-SuC.sg Home-ObjT.sg Go
Hyena went home.

Naka Rī Kás’kuja Teira Bi’
Hyena-SuT.sg [Home Go]-ObjC.sg
Hyena went home.

Note a couple things: One, you can mark not only the object as the T or C, but also the whole predicate, or just the verb. Two, marking the predicate looks exactly the same as marking the verb alone. Three, and I noted this explicitly - Kás’kuja Teira is not a compound. (More on that later.) Four, the highlighting also works in reverse: the C-mark identifies what is less worthy of focus on.

As well, you can just drop a marker if you have enough context:

Naka Kás’kuja Dái Teira
Hyena Home-ObjT.sg Go
Hyena went back home.
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Let’s now make some more complex sentences.
Firstly, since the main thing is that the phrase be OV, the subject can be displaced. (So, OVS)

Kás’kuja Bi’ Teira Naka Gē
Home-ObjC.sg Go Hyena-SuT.pl
Went home did the hyenas.

Now, I don’t know what exact syntax rules I had in mind here long ago, but here’s an oblique sentence I wrote:

Axau’ Su Bajei Tā Pūzéjeu Naka Rī
Axau-OblT.pl Vegetable-ObjT.pl Eat.pred Hyena SuT.sg
Hyena will eat Axau for vegetables. (lit. Hyena ate vegetables by means of Axau)

Notable here is that everything here is in topic. So maybe topic is the wrong word - focus maybe is the better term.

Nominalization and copula:

Quote:
“-xa turns the verb into a noun.
(Will this not allow the noun to exist without another verb?)
(Maybe it just deletes any obvious verbs in a sentence, leaving only a copula?)”

It’s a nominalizer. Interpret the above as you please. (I think it’s auxiliary and copula stuff being discussed, but I can’t remember.) On the same page are the following examples (corrected according to a prior note):

Naka Rī Kás’kuja Bi’
Hyena-SuT.sg Home-ObjC.sg
Hyena is a home.

Naka Rī Kás’kuja Teira Bi’
Hyena-SuT.sg Go Home-ObjC.sg
Hyena goes home.

Naka Rī Kás’kuja Teiraxa Bi’
Hyena-SuT.sg [Home Go-nom]-ObjC.sg
Hyena is homeward-bound.

Naka Rī Kás’kuja Bi’ Teiraxa
Hyena-SuT.sg Home-ObjC.sg Go-nom
I quote, “[Not sure; work on it]”

The latter is a mess to analyze, so we'll move on for now.
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